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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 02-13-2012, 03:19 PM
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Wait - your'e calling me a sucker? What!

Seriously - let's face the fact that the project got too long, they restarted it too many times and then the people funding it forced it out on the market a year before the developers where ready... So what do we as the small simulation community earn by "punishing" the team for that? Sure, they have probably made a lot of bad decisions to end up with a half finished product when the publisher pulled the blanket - but really, I spent $50 yesterday buying iRacing just to try it. That kind of money is not the end of the world, it it? It would be another thing if my new Audi would just break down and Audi said: "Sorry, we where forced to release it before it was done...". In this case let's be a bit forgiving with the poor sods over there in Russia working their asses of to continue delivering WWII simulators. How many others are there?
Dude I won't blaming anyone if they fix CoD. If they take my money and move on after promising a fixed product, its a disgrace. It is actually false advertising. It was promised to be fixed. I just hope they fix it. No excuses.

I didn't buy CoD to get BoM. I'm not buying BoM to get CoD either. I want CoD as advertised (or even in the ballpark). Then I 'll consider buying BoM. There are a lot of CoD owners who feel the same way. And yes if you buy BoM and they don't fix CoD you are asking to get ripped off a second time and that would be a sucker.

If they fix CoD, then no worries.

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Old 02-13-2012, 06:47 PM
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I didn't buy CoD to get BoM. I'm not buying BoM to get CoD either. I want CoD as advertised (or even in the ballpark). Then I 'll consider buying BoM. There are a lot of CoD owners who feel the same way. And yes if you buy BoM and they don't fix CoD you are asking to get ripped off a second time and that would be a sucker.

If they fix CoD, then no worries.
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Old 02-13-2012, 01:27 PM
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Regarding CLOD as I predicted some time ago the game is effectively dead, with no plans to add any more aircraft, no dynamic campaign or weather all we can hope for is a fix to finally make the game work without crashing. Maybe if the devs are feeling generous the FM and DM's will get a makeover but other than that the game is finished, to me Luthier as made it quite clear the future is BOM. CLOD was just a way to finance BOM.
If weather is included with BoM it will be available for CoD.
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Old 02-13-2012, 05:32 PM
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Regarding CLOD as I predicted some time ago the game is effectively dead, with no plans to add any more aircraft, no dynamic campaign or weather all we can hope for is a fix to finally make the game work without crashing. Maybe if the devs are feeling generous the FM and DM's will get a makeover but other than that the game is finished, to me Luthier as made it quite clear the future is BOM. CLOD was just a way to finance BOM.
I agree that the developers probably won't make a dynamic campaign for COD, but I'm sure other talented people in the community, and third party groups will. COD isn't dead and far from it.

Currently the developers are reworking atleast the graphic engine, and fixing bugs in other features.

Aircraft made for the other theaters, will include some that were used over England and France.

The Dynamic Weather feature will be available to all theaters when implemented.
There is no reason that any feature built for the series can't be applied to COD if its applicable. ie DX11 water etc etc etc

The SDK will be released to the community. This will mean every aspect of COD could change and evolve over the next ten years.

You are right that COD financed BOM........... then BOM will finance The Med, then The Med will finance The Pacific, then The Pacific will finance Europe, etc etc etc etc

Right now, I'm hoping the series will survive long enough for the SDK to be released so that the community can get their hands on what the developer couldn't afford to continue work on.
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Old 02-13-2012, 06:45 PM
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I agree that the developers probably won't make a dynamic campaign for COD, but I'm sure other talented people in the community, and third party groups will. COD isn't dead and far from it.

Currently the developers are reworking atleast the graphic engine, and fixing bugs in other features.

Aircraft made for the other theaters, will include some that were used over England and France.

The Dynamic Weather feature will be available to all theaters when implemented.
There is no reason that any feature built for the series can't be applied to COD if its applicable. ie DX11 water etc etc etc

The SDK will be released to the community. This will mean every aspect of COD could change and evolve over the next ten years.

You are right that COD financed BOM........... then BOM will finance The Med, then The Med will finance The Pacific, then The Pacific will finance Europe, etc etc etc etc

Right now, I'm hoping the series will survive long enough for the SDK to be released so that the community can get their hands on what the developer couldn't afford to continue work on.
I admire your optimism Chivas I really do, If only it was all that simple. Approaching a year after release and I still have a broken game, lets hope Luthier can afford to fix it for me.
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Old 02-13-2012, 07:00 PM
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I admire your optimism Chivas I really do, If only it was all that simple. Approaching a year after release and I still have a broken game, lets hope Luthier can afford to fix it for me.
The next update should be ready in 2 weeks. Problem solved.
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Old 02-13-2012, 07:07 PM
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The next update should be ready in 2 weeks. Problem solved.
Eh?? Source please?
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Old 02-13-2012, 07:42 PM
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Eh?? Source please?
2 weeks was a joke, but the update is coming. Be sure. Problem solved.
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Old 02-13-2012, 07:08 PM
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Old 02-13-2012, 12:59 PM
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Ok, no problem, although I don't think that running the same game/graphics engine is a problem if its easily expandable. Oleg talked about making the new game engine future proof, by making it modular. As in the graphic engine module could be rewritten to incorporate new tech, without overly effecting all the other game engine modules. In Olegs first IL-2 game engine everything was mixed together so much that changing one thing caused major bugs, and problems in other code, features etc. Although it made it much harder for modders to hack the code. That isn't applicable this time as the developer is releasing the SDK.
Except, in 5 years these already not so fantastic graphics are going to look really dated. There is no future proofing in technology unless you are satisfied with the outdated, and most simmers are not.
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