4.11 - AI debugging

[FC99]

Originally Posted by Lagarto

The problem is that if you fly in No 2 position (leader's wingman) and the leader gets shot down, the rest of the flight (Nos 3 and 4) will formate on you. It happened to me last night. I couldn't communicate with them, and the moment I was about to touch down, they both slammed into the ground.

Damn, this is something we must improve. While we are at it, what do you think about giving the human player an option to inform his flight about nearby bandits even when he is not flight leader?

[fruitbat]

Originally Posted by FC99

Damn, this is something we must improve. While we are at it, what do you think about giving the human player an option to inform his flight about nearby bandits even when he is not flight leader?

I think thats a good idea, you would irl.

Awesome work your doing with the AI, really impressive

[Fenrir]

Can I add to this that the AI call bandits when the player is flight leader; currently they just break off and engage leaving the oblivious player unaware of their departure!

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

Hm? Your AI friends are calling bandits for you and as long as you tell them to fly in formation, they also will not departure if they are not attacked.

[Aviar]

Originally Posted by Fenrir

Can I add to this that the AI call bandits when the player is flight leader; currently they just break off and engage leaving the oblivious player unaware of their departure!

All you need to do is use your Wingman/Flight 'Rejoin' command and they will get right back into formation....even if they 'see' nearby enemy planes.

Aviar

[Lagarto]

Aviar, the problem, as I understand it, is of different nature. I don't want my AI wingmen to stay in formation, just the opposite. I don't mind them leading me to enemy aircraft they 'spotted' - provided they're kind enough to inform me that they're breaking off formation to engage something!
My AI wingmen are usually better than me in locating enemy in the sky (they don't have to strain their eyes; being computer-controlled, they just 'know' that something's coming), so being a flight leader I rely on them in that matter. All I want is that they call out the 'bandits' instead of just flying away on their own, the way they do now.

[Aviar]

Ok, since this is the AI debugging thread, I'll throw one in here that is a real immersion killer, although it only happens under certain circumstances. However, it is still annoying when it does happen.

If I have a small mission (let's say 3 flyable Allied planes) and I host a coop and all 3 planes are manned by a human....when we get near an enemy flight, the 'AI' will scream out the 'bandits sighted' call.

Well, there is NO friendly AI anywhere on the map because all 3 planes are manned by humans. Who is this AI ghost screaming on the radio that they see bandits? It really breaks the mood.

Ok, vent mode off. This is really not a fault of 4.11, as it's been around for years...maybe from day one. It's just that it happened again today and the post above mine reminded me of it.

So, if this small issue can ever be resolved it would be nice.

EDIT: I forgot...this AI 'ghost' also congratulates you when you get a kill....LOL.

Aviar

[jameson]

That happened to me flying earlier with AI as wingman, he'd been shot down and five minutes later he's praised my shooting! Sadly I was shot down later and during that, looking behind I see the P39 firing and next to him the useless AI watching presumably , no warning either. They still fly on your dead six where you can't see them, mind you given they now only just fly, unless you order them to do something, (with the reply, negative! negative!). lol!
The enemy AI are much better in 4.11 tho'.

[eduzk]

At least once this happened in dynamic campaign game: We flew eight Bf109s. Number one crash-landed, but the pilot stayed in the cockpit. Two, three and four continued their patrol route, but the second flight kept circling over the crashed number one.

[JG26_EZ]

I don't have many details regarding the "glitch" I've heard reported in my missions, but something to note just incase others are now experiencing it aswell..

Two old missions. AI was in P39's '42
While hosting, twice now, I've been asked by a pilot "Are you still here?"
I waved it off the first time.. but then again today.. different mission but same P39's.. Someone asked again "Are you still here?"
I replied "Yes", and we continued flying..
When we were finished the mission, I asked what the issue was..
He replied that the P39's were flying under the ground and thought that the host had disconnected (the reason for asking if I was sill there).

Like I mentioned at the start.. I don't have a .ntrk or any hardcore evidence, but figured I'd mention it incase others notice the same problem. (It might have been on my end, but I haven't had anyone speak of this problem before now/v4.11)