Battle for Moscow

[JG5_emil]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Regarding the OP, Battle For Moscow is in the making, I cannot seeing it being ready this year, we are now 10 months since release of CLOd and there is still a lot of work to be done.

I think they'll be working harder on releasing BOm to keep the cash flowing and a lot of the fixes we were hoping for in CLOD will come with that release.

[Fansadox]

A community manager is what they need. Lack of info and sporadic feedback is killing them right now.

[priller26]

So far I am very pleased with the game. As with any game, there
certainly seem to be some issues to be worked out, but like the
last IL-2 series, I am confident they will be corrected over time.

Originally Posted by priller26

So far I am very pleased with the game. As with any game, there
certainly seem to be some issues to be worked out, but like the
last IL-2 series, I am confident they will be corrected over time.

And confidence is coming from.....? The game is still unplayable for most (online) when effects are near (dust, explosions) or when the dogfight is low over cities. AA still not working without "3d party fix". Game was released year ago.

No Battle for Moscow for me, until they fix the CLOD. Dont get me wrong, I would like to play this sim because thats what I like to do in my free time for last 15 yrs....and I gave them 50 bucks....which is not a small change in this part of the world...

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

And confidence is coming from.....?

10 years of IL2 development and a lot of "been there, done that?"

[Hood]

This thread isn't about any of the CloD problems - we all know what these are. It's about rebuilding the fan base/developer relationship and BoM providing a great opportunity to do so. You could even do this with CloD if the will to do so is there.

Hood

[mcdaniels]

No Battle for Moscow for me, until they fix the CLOD.

+1

I accepted the not working comm.
I accepted the scripted Campaign.
I accepted the FPS drops.

..but I really cannot accept the CTD. I know, always the same "bla bla bla" .

For me CloD is a really nice sim, no question!

Is it possible that the main focus of the devs is concentrating to the sequel?

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by Hood

This thread isn't about any of the CloD problems - we all know what these are. It's about rebuilding the fan base/developer relationship and BoM providing a great opportunity to do so. You could even do this with CloD if the will to do so is there.

Hood

Unfortunately the animosity has gone both ways, between the developer and community in the past few years. The biggest problem is some in the community not understanding the difference between what the developer is trying to achieve and a promise in past updates. Now the developers have to be very careful on how they word every statement, but that doesn't work either, when they state there is no promise with this particular features, its ALWAYS thrown back in their face as a PROMISE later.

A week goes by very slowly for the community, but its a nanosecond for the developer. A bi-weekly update might work, but I just as soon they wait until they had something worth reporting.

Hopefully in the next year the game engine will be optimized and it will be more just a matter of adding content, rather than a Keystone Cop's fire drill.

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

Dear friend, I was there in 2001. When IL2 came out. Its not the same team. Its not the same man in charge. Different times....nuff said.

The same is true of North Korea.......point is many institutions go through a change of leadership but the institutions remain the same.

Originally Posted by bongodriver

The same is true of North Korea.......point is many institutions go through a change of leadership but the institutions remain the same.

So you think IL2 and CLOD share the same playability, optimisation (of engine) success, sale and popularity amongs fans?.....not even close...maybe one day but we will see....we wil see...even if CLOD succeed in that, IL2 will still have better start...much better...btw, having a different man in charge could make a big difference....both in success and quality! of the product and in communication with the fans and other parties...On top of that Oleg didnt have IL2 as backgroiund for his team...it was "to be or not to be". Maybe thats the reason of their success...