Red Tails Trailer #3

[zauii]

Effects and CGI == amazing, but the whole "patriotism" is insane. In that short trailer it just screams "america, we are best times 10" and it kinda puts you off. I'll definitely watch it but i bet its gonna leave a bad an unrealistic taste just like Pearl Harbor. It will be interesting to see how they portray the Germans in the movie..

Originally Posted by zauii

Effects and CGI == amazing, but the whole "patriotism" is insane. In that short trailer it just screams "america, we are best times 10" and it kinda puts you off. I'll definitely watch it but i bet its gonna leave a bad an unrealistic taste just like Pearl Harbor. It will be interesting to see how they portray the Germans in the movie..

It's a story about how America treated a racial minority like crap. How does that scream "America, we are the best time 10"? It seems to me that it screams "America, wtf???"

[Kodoss]

Guys, the trailer says: "inspired by true events." That means it's not a documenary.

Movies are only fairy tales. If you don't like it, then don't watch it.

[zauii]

Originally Posted by IamNotDavid

It's a story about how America treated a racial minority like crap. How does that scream "America, we are the best time 10"? It seems to me that it screams "America, wtf???"

Seriously watch the trailers again.

Originally Posted by David Hayward

Considering that they invaded most of Europe and killed millions, I'm betting that the Germans will be the bad guys.

Which is exactly what makes a bad movie. I'd surely like to see a a series made in the similar -> style <- of Band of Brothers but from the German or Japanese perspective instead.
Dive into the group/individuals experience but skip the political business. The reason for why its almost never been done before (both for movies, games) is because everyone is scared of how the public will react.

I don't deny the facts and I do not agree with what they did and their politics but you can tell stories without acting like it's Star Wars. The same goes for games,
most people feel fed up with fighting the "Russians" or "Germans" as the evil nation while the American hero saves the day for the 69th million time.

Part reason why i enjoy simulators without any story or games that can actually portray both sides in a fair and respectable way(ie RO2).

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by zauii

Which is exactly what makes a bad movie. I'd surely like to see a a series made in the similar -> style <- of Band of Brothers but from the German or Japanese perspective instead.

When you start a war that kills millions of people you're probably not going to be portrayed as the good guys in the movies that follow the war,

[zauii]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

When you start a war that kills millions of people you're probably not going to be portrayed as the good guys in the movies that follow the war,

Thats not the point jeeze , you seriously don't get it?

Originally Posted by David Hayward

I watched it repeatedly. You're only seeing what you want to see.

I think its the other way around bud.

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by zauii

Thats not the point jeeze , you seriously don't get it?

Yes, that is the point. Losing wars has consequences. One of those consequences is that the winners make movies that do not reflect well on the losers. And no one goes to movies that reflect well on people who started massive wars.

[FFCW_Urizen]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

And no one goes to movies that reflect well on people who started massive wars.

Whole Germany wanted War with everyone else, hell, even little unborn Irma living next door wanted War and the reigning Sociopath just followed that call

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

Yes, that is the point. Losing wars has consequences. One of those consequences is that the winners make movies that do not reflect well on the losers. And no one goes to movies that reflect well on people who started massive wars.

hmmmmmm....

[zauii]

Originally Posted by David Hayward

Yes, that is the point. Losing wars has consequences. One of those consequences is that the winners make movies that do not reflect well on the losers. And no one goes to movies that reflect well on people who started massive wars.

And thats exactly were you're going deeply wrong, plenty of people would play games as the Germans in a compelling story or watch movies like BoB from their perspective where they're not portrayed as animals.
Would we be nazis because of this no? Some people enjoy watching Saw movies, are they murderers no? Portray them as good fighters or focus on something else instead of the political business.
(Or dont involve it at all, just focus a movie on a battle instead of insulting one or the other side from ONE angle).

The music industry got past this hurdle a long time ago and you've bands like Sabaton who develop songs about everything from the American Paratroopers to the Polish resistance and the German Ghost Division Tribute.
It's been what ~67 years, and thats exactly my whole point. Fed up with yet another American patriotic/biased movie. The discussion is useless because you refuse to see were i am going with this.

I shouldn't have to repeat this but you don't get it, its not about the politics. As I've said before I totally disagree with everything they did so I'm not trying to pick sides here.
It's about making interesting movies that can display both sides in a fair manner instead of using one angle.

And so back to the movie, i'll watch it for the CGI but i bet its gonna leave a bad taste.