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Old 03-13-2008, 01:25 PM
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I, for one, would certainly be loathe to install Vista on my machine, it breaks too much.
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Old 03-13-2008, 03:50 PM
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Well, if he's really said so then we have no reason to worry.

It's true that they have a good track record with IL2. I'm running 46 on a 3 year old system (AMD AthlonXP 2600+, 1.2GB RAM, Nvidia 6600GT 128MB) and while i can't max out everything, i can still run at 1024x768 on high detail settings or 1280x1024 on medium.

I will need to upgrade either way but i'm holding out on it because i'm leaving for 12 month military duty in May. So, when i get back and get a new PC it will be better than what i'd get if i upgraded now and probably run BoB even better.

As for Vista, we can't avoid using it in the long run but we can postpone it until they fix things. Due to Vista's issues many gamers stick with XP, so after the initial "no XP support from now on" there's word of a Service Pack 3 for XP around the corner. Vista also had the SP1 Beta released recently. In fact, not only gamers stick with XP, there have been rumors about big companies in the PC industry installing Vista in their offices and rolling back to XP within a week

XP had its issues too, but with SP2 it's one of the most stable windows versions ever. So i guess the same will happen with Vista after a while. And since we can have a new SP3 to keep XP up to date, this wait will not be a big deal. The thing is that they rush their projects and that's where most problems come from. I didn't upgrade to XP immediately because of that (i was running win98 2nd edition till the release of SP1) and i'm not upgrading to Vista for the same reason. But if Vista goes the way of XP, in a couple of years we'll have a stable system again. So i don't see this as too much of a big deal.

By the way, is the effects=2 trigger something i missed (i don't know what it is) or is it in the 4.09 Beta? The only thing i remember changing in the conf.ini file was the water detail level and i think there was another trigger for trees. Can someone give me a list of the most used conf.ini settings that alter graphics?
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Old 03-13-2008, 04:04 PM
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Well, if he's really said so then we have no reason to worry.

It's true that they have a good track record with IL2. I'm running 46 on a 3 year old system (AMD AthlonXP 2600+, 1.2GB RAM, Nvidia 6600GT 128MB) and while i can't max out everything, i can still run at 1024x768 on high detail settings or 1280x1024 on medium.

I will need to upgrade either way but i'm holding out on it because i'm leaving for 12 month military duty in May. So, when i get back and get a new PC it will be better than what i'd get if i upgraded now and probably run BoB even better.

As for Vista, we can't avoid using it in the long run but we can postpone it until they fix things. Due to Vista's issues many gamers stick with XP, so after the initial "no XP support from now on" there's word of a Service Pack 3 for XP around the corner. Vista also had the SP1 Beta released recently. In fact, not only gamers stick with XP, there have been rumors about big companies in the PC industry installing Vista in their offices and rolling back to XP within a week

XP had its issues too, but with SP2 it's one of the most stable windows versions ever. So i guess the same will happen with Vista after a while. And since we can have a new SP3 to keep XP up to date, this wait will not be a big deal. The thing is that they rush their projects and that's where most problems come from. I didn't upgrade to XP immediately because of that (i was running win98 2nd edition till the release of SP1) and i'm not upgrading to Vista for the same reason. But if Vista goes the way of XP, in a couple of years we'll have a stable system again. So i don't see this as too much of a big deal.

By the way, is the effects=2 trigger something i missed (i don't know what it is) or is it in the 4.09 Beta? The only thing i remember changing in the conf.ini file was the water detail level and i think there was another trigger for trees. Can someone give me a list of the most used conf.ini settings that alter graphics?
Effects=2 enables more 3-dimensional looking smoke and explosions. Very nice to look at, but a huge hit on your performance. As Oleg posted again and again: Wait until BoB is released, if you consider an upgrade for BoB. Who knows what hardware will be available then...
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Old 03-14-2008, 08:52 AM
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It was allready stated, that SoW:BoB will run with high details on a system that runs IL2-1946 at high details, too. Even more than with the IL2-Engine there are certain options, that will become finished and available as the product evolves and hardware meets the specifications needed.

IMHO this is the best way to please all sides of the market.
No... My statement was that Bob _will_run_ on the system on which now Il-2 series run at highest detail... But it doesn't means that it will run on high detail on that system... This means that probably it will be lowest settings...
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Old 03-14-2008, 08:54 AM
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Effects=2 enables more 3-dimensional looking smoke and explosions. Very nice to look at, but a huge hit on your performance. As Oleg posted again and again: Wait until BoB is released, if you consider an upgrade for BoB. Who knows what hardware will be available then...
Correct in terms if you don't play any other games... or waiting for other games that will be released more early than BoB.
Anyway, I personally plan to upgrage my home PC only _after_ release of BoB.
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Old 03-14-2008, 09:31 AM
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Correct in terms if you don't play any other games... or waiting for other games that will be released more early than BoB.
Anyway, I personally plan to upgrage my home PC only _after_ release of BoB.
There are other games worth waiting for?

Sorry I got your quote wrong about the performance relation, but thanks for clearing that up. I remember getting shot down dozens of times, while I stared at the visual details in IL2 - I guess I will be easy prey when BoB will be released with all the eyecandy.
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Old 03-14-2008, 09:48 AM
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To recap the interview with Oleg by Mysticpuma:

*SoW will be multi-core capable, from what I can gather Intel released the updated compiler that Oleg was after in Nov07.

*Oleg stated that SoW will be OpenGL, but had no problem running it in DX10 under Vista.

Also I bought Vista 64 Ultimate just over a month ago. I have had NOT one BSOD yet. It's been the most stable Windows OS I have ever used to date.
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Old 03-14-2008, 10:45 AM
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I'd like to know if ingame-voice coms will be redone for SoW. I think it is one of the most important features for a teamgame and it surely adds to immersion as well. AFAIK there are a few developers allready in contact with the developers of Teamspeak2 to incorporate their new release into their games.
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Old 03-14-2008, 12:31 PM
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Hello everyone
I am new to this forum and I came to make a request
OLEG I know you are with all the attention directed to the BoB
But it would be possible that you refizesse the flight model of the P-36 and MS-406 and 410 and becomes flyables them?

Curtiss P-36A,or Hawk 75A3

Propulsion

Powerplant: Pratt & Whitney R-1830
Horsepower: 1050 hp

Performance:
Range: 830 miles (1336.00 Km)
Cruise Speed: 250.00 mph (402.00 Km/H)
Max Speed: 313.00 Mph (504.00 Km/H) ___(in il-2 434km/h)
Ceiling: 32700.0 Ft

Curtiss P-36G, or Hawk 75A4

PERFORMANCE:

Engine(s): 1 x Wright R-1820-G205A Cyclone piston radial engine generating 1,200hp.
Maximum Speed: 322 mph | 518 km/h | 280 kts ____(in il-2 459km/h)
Maximum Range: 650 miles | 1,046 km
Service Ceiling: 32,349 ft | 9,860 m | 6.1 miles
Climb Rate: 2,500 ft/min (761.6 m/min)


ARMAMENT:

External Hardpoints: 1
Armament:
4 x 7.62mm machine guns
2 x 12.7mm machine guns

Morane Saulnier MS 406

Performance
Maximum speed: 486 km/h at 5,000 m (290 mph at 16,400 ft) ____(in Il-2 is 440km/h)
Range: 1,000 km (620 mi)
Rate of climb: 13.0 m/s (2,560 ft/min)
Wing loading: 141.9 kg/m² (29.1 lb/ft²)
Power/mass: 260 W/kg (0.16 hp/lb)


In the game it is slower than i-16 type 24, mc-200...It is horrible
Without mentioning that the MS-406 which is a turtle
One more detail:max dive speed Hawk 75 is 600km/h and Hawk 81 is 760km/h
Remembering that the wings are identical, the only thing that changes is the engine
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Old 03-14-2008, 01:23 PM
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You probably have to wait years until you see these changes.

Work on IL2 has stopped and the number of planes in SoW:BoB will be rather limited compared to what we have in IL2-1946 now. But as they will be way more detailed, I bet they'll be much closer to what they were in reality, than we have it in IL2-1946.
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