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[CaptainDoggles]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Interesting.. So your saying that that all the PC flight sims since the mid 1990s who claim to have implemented a 6DOF FM were lying to us?

No, that's not what I'm saying at all. Re-read what I wrote.

Interesting, but fluid flow equations and navier stokes equations are not used in a 6DOF FM


Hence me stating 6DOF and not fluid flow or navier stokes


Not only is 6DOF good enough for PC game flight simulation, but it is good enough for most if not all military flight simulations.

So you agree it's an approximation to reality then, as I said earlier?

On that note, don't confuse flight simulation with aircraft design technics (which you appear to be doing)

The ideal simulation will follow principles of aircraft design and accurately reproduce reality.

I got news for you, no simulation is 1:1 with reality

No kidding, this is the point I was trying to make from the beginning.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

No, that's not what I'm saying at all. Re-read what I wrote.

Ok lets re-read it..

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

You are mistaken.

Hmmm.. Sorry but even after the re-read it appears you are under the impression that no PC flight sim has ever implemented a 6DOF FM, which is just not true.

Granted you did not come out and say they are lying, you just implied it.

As for mistaken..

In light of the fact that many PC flight sims have implemented a 6DOF FM, it appears that you are the one that is mistaken, not I

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

So you agree it's an approximation to reality then, as I said earlier?

First thing to note I never said a 6DOF is reality, hence the name 'simulation'

What worries me about what you said is that you seem to think a CFD FM is equal to reality, which is just not the case.

I have this saying, no sim ever was, is, or will be perfect (read equal to reality)

Kind of sums it all up don't it?

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

The ideal simulation will follow principles of aircraft design and accurately reproduce reality.

Depends on your definition of ideal..

I think it is safe to say that most people here would agree that a simulation that takes 3 hours to simulate 3 minutes of flight time is NOT ideal..

Your mileage may vary?

Originally Posted by CaptainDoggles

No kidding, this is the point I was trying to make from the beginning.

So you agree a CFD FM like a 6DOF FM is an approximation to reality then, as I said earlier?