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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 07-26-2011, 01:39 PM
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Yes I can see the problem, the problem is you don't want to know anything
Not even close. The problem is that any sort of progress report is just going to upset people (which you can see every time there is a progress report) for reasons both real and imagined.

BTW, it's not that I don't want to know anything, it's that it makes no difference whether I know anything. The update will be ready when it's ready. It will fix whatever it fixes. There is no way I can change any of that, so what real difference does it make if I know the details?
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:43 PM
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David, are you in a online sqd?
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:44 PM
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David, are you in a online sqd?
No.
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:45 PM
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No.
No wonder there..
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:47 PM
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No wonder there..
What squad do you belong to?
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:49 PM
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To yours, I'm your wingman.
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:49 PM
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BTW, it's not that I don't want to know anything, it's that it makes no difference whether I know anything. The update will be ready when it's ready. It will fix whatever it fixes. There is no way I can change any of that, so what real difference does it make if I know the details?
While I understand what you're saying and such, I also find myself disagreeing. Yes, I cannot make a difference as to what they're working on, but I'd like to know what to look forward to regardless. If nothing else than to boost my patience-meter and not wipe CLoD off my disks until it's in a more playable state than it currently is.

Can 1C become better in the field of dev-to-Player communication? Of course they can. Yet I find myself understanding why they don't bother, since any and every single post by Luthier finds him under fire for just about any- and everything. If they say they're working on the sounds, people will wail about the flightmodels. If they work on performance-issues, people will wail about the AI. So regardless of what they do, they're damned and will come under fire. Some will say that such is the life of a software-dev, but seriously, can you blame them for not communicating when all they get is a deluge of sewage and manure coming in at mach 4-speeds horizontally?
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:55 PM
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Yes, I cannot make a difference as to what they're working on, but I'd like to know what to look forward to regardless. If nothing else than to boost my patience-meter and not wipe CLoD off my disks until it's in a more playable state than it currently is.
If you're (not "you" specifically) going to spend your days (for month after month after month) complaining that the devs are not keeping you up to date on their progress (even as they keep posting progress reports), then another progress report really isn't going to change anything. (this isn't directed at you, but that is the general theme of this board)

Would I like to know? Sure. Do I need to know? Not even a little.
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:59 PM
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David, you understand that people want different things?
and that people think differently to you?

The reason i ask is, if you was in a online sqd, i would bet you would have people who you could talk to in person(TS,Vent).
And talking to them instead of posting here you might think differently.

Over the last few days ive been flying and chatting online with Krupi, we used to disagree about a few things on here but after chatting we get along just fine.

Do you have Teamspeak 2?

Edit. that goes to Baron, Frey or anyone else that thinks im a moaning whining malcontent.
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Not even close. The problem is that any sort of progress report is just going to upset people (which you can see every time there is a progress report) for reasons both real and imagined.

BTW, it's not that I don't want to know anything, it's that it makes no difference whether I know anything. The update will be ready when it's ready. It will fix whatever it fixes. There is no way I can change any of that, so what real difference does it make if I know the details?
Sigh... read my post again.

I just want to be kept informed.. Not a lot to ask.
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