One explanation and we will stop whining

Originally Posted by David Hayward

Opitz, what part of "you whine when he responds and you whine when he doesn't respond" did you fail to understand?

Try elaborate on this topic...

[Fjordmonkey]

Originally Posted by adonys

what resourcesa re you talking about? Luthier is not a programmer, he is a project manager, he's not working on coding, or texturing, or anything else.

How do you know? With a small design-team, he might actually have to work on coding etc. Besides, being a project-manager isn't some cushy laidback affair. Not when you're dealing with a few hundred thousand lines of code etc.

Originally Posted by adonys

believe me, he HAS enough time to make a post once a week.

Again, how do you know?

[adonys]

Originally Posted by Fjordmonkey

How do you know? With a small design-team, he might actually have to work on coding etc. Besides, being a project-manager isn't some cushy laidback affair. Not when you're dealing with a few hundred thousand lines of code etc.

Again, how do you know?

because, guess what?!! I am working as project-manager in game developement busines

and even if you don't have that time in your working hours, you can give half an hour a week from your own and personal free time to post a little update for the guys who are paying you for what you are working on if you really give a damn.

[skouras]

exactly
i don't beleive that is so difficult to find 10 minutes for some info
i work one day to give those money for this game

[Kankkis]

Even some ETA for next patch and there are happier people after that.

1week, 2week or month? Some info?

[Fjordmonkey]

Originally Posted by adonys

because, guess what?!! I am working as project-manager in game developement busines

and even if you don't have that time in your working hours, you can give half an hour a week from your own and personal free time to post a little update for the guys who are paying you for what you are working on.

And while that might work for you, it doesn't mean that Ilya or anyone else from the team has the time, strength or willpower to do so after the workday is done.

All in all, it's my personal view that this thread is filled with people that are so far off in their assumptions about how things should be done that it's laughable in the extreme. Hell, I haven't seen worse whining since I stopped playing Rift about a month after release.

Tell you one thing, though: In terms of hilarity, this thread delivers. Greatly.

End statement: Caveat Emptor. I ALWAYS have this in mind when picking up ANY software-product. Maybe others should as well.

[MadTommy]

Originally Posted by Fjordmonkey

Tell you one thing, though: In terms of hilarity, this thread delivers. Greatly.

let me correct that..

Tell you one thing, though: In terms of hilarity, these forums delivers. Greatly.

OMG there hasn't been an update for 12 days, 3 hours and 25 seconds.. how dare they, i think they have abandoned the game, they have taken our money and run away.. mummy where's my milk!

[Ataros]

Originally Posted by adonys

and even if you don't have that time in your working hours, you can give half an hour a week from your own and personal free time to post a little update for the guys who are paying you for what you are working on.

They usually work 10-12 hours a day and sometimes more here in Russia. Overtime hours are not paid by a company usually. The legislation is poor in this respect.

I think this is one of reasons sim devs can make ends meet in Russia only. In any other country but China it would not be possible. I have seen a thread where employees of both 777 and DCS shared the same problem that the companies hardly meet ends even with low salaries and extra hours (and they charge per aircraft btw). I think CoD, RoF and DCS are the last complex sim series we see in our lifes. All others will be WoP style at best.

[adonys]

Originally Posted by Ataros

They usually work 10-12 hours a day and sometimes more here in Russia. Overtime hours are not paid by a company usually. The legislation is poor in this respect...

I live in Romania, is the same in here as in there: long not-paid extra hours. so what? I still have time to live, post in here, read, play games, watch movies, eat, sleep, make sex, get out with friends and tons of other normal things.

Originally Posted by Ataros

They usually work 10-12 hours a day and sometimes more here in Russia. Overtime hours are not paid by a company usually. The legislation is poor in this respect.

I think this is one of reasons sim devs can make ends meet in Russia only. In any other country but China it would not be possible. I have seen a thread where employees of both 777 and DCS shared the same problem that the companies hardly meet ends even with low salaries and extra hours. I think CoD, RoF and DCS are the last complex sim series we see in our lifes. All others will be WoP style at best.

Sorry, mate but THIS is hillarious, indeed... What about ROF guys? They have no problem to answer many questions... Jason is writing there too... He was even writing on forum from E3, when there was problem with credit card payments... It is all about priorities... They were answering, writing even before very important patch, which WAS NOT a disaster like CLOD ones. This is just so poor excuses... Oh poor russian devs... Only they are working 10-12 hours a day...
Look... it is all about will and about having something to say/write.

My theory is quite simple - there is no news, so no "news update"...

They have new guy for sounds right? why not to make some simple update about his work? some samples or video inside game? just this... it is not so much, but people would appreciate it.