Oleg Maddox's Room #1

[SlipBall]

Yes Oleg I am a advocate for better, complex engine managment, and a switch for full start up procedure if desired by the pilot ......I know that you believe people would grow tired of it, but having the switch is the answer to this problem.....I would love to have this feature....maybe? yes/no...a slight chance....oh please!

[Thunderbolt56]

I'd really much rather see the greater detail implemented into the flight model and especially the damage model if I were forced to choose or even prioritize. Perhaps some additional CEM tidbits programmable for individual tastes, but with a much more complex engine start procedure, will we also have to warm up our engines on the flightline for 10 minutes? If not then will there be consequences if you run your engine too hard after not warming it up?

No, for me, I don't need to have as much realistic detail on the flightline as I do in the air.

I'm not advocating against it, but it'd be too bad if we get a 21 point engine start procedure and lose a damage model detail as a result. With the exception of coops, most people don't spend much time in pre-flight procedure...not even in the servers with runway obstacle courses like Spits-109's.

[VMF-214_HaVoK]

Originally Posted by Thunderbolt56

I'd really much rather see the greater detail implemented into the flight model and especially the damage model if I were forced to choose or even prioritize. Perhaps some additional CEM tidbits programmable for individual tastes, but with a much more complex engine start procedure, will we also have to warm up our engines on the flightline for 10 minutes? If not then will there be consequences if you run your engine too hard after not warming it up?

No, for me, I don't need to have as much realistic detail on the flightline as I do in the air.

I'm not advocating against it, but it'd be too bad if we get a 21 point engine start procedure and lose a damage model detail as a result. With the exception of coops, most people don't spend much time in pre-flight procedure...not even in the servers with runway obstacle courses like Spits-109's.

LOL, ya its hard enough to get people to take the few seconds to taxi correctly let alone spend the time to do a correct startup procedure. It would be cool but Oleg has made some very good points as to why it will not be included and I have to agree. Leave the startup procedures to the civilian sims as there are far more important things to address in a combat sim.

S!

[41Sqn_Banks]

Complex engine manamgent is not about starting the engine. It's about correct boost presure, correct rpm, correct limitations for both, correct throttle (for example a variable datum type boost control used on Merlin III vs. the more simple boost control in Merlin II), pitch handling and W.E.P. handling. Also overheating.

The flight model is not limited the stick control, your left hand on the throttle/pitch is also a important factor in the flight model.

[SlipBall]

Understood and agreed....the start up, would have been a bonus for some of us off liners

[Therion_Prime]

Originally Posted by 41Sqn_Banks

Complex engine manamgent is not about starting the engine. It's about correct boost presure, correct rpm, correct limitations for both, correct throttle (for example a variable datum type boost control used on Merlin III vs. the more simple boost control in Merlin II), pitch handling and W.E.P. handling. Also overheating.

The flight model is not limited the stick control, your left hand on the throttle/pitch is also a important factor in the flight model.

Let's not forget fuel management. Selectable fueltanks with consequences to the FM would be great.

And for the "complex" startup procedure just look at Skockwaves BoBII. You just need to press no more than 5 switches ( 2 x magnetos, fuel cutoff, primer pump and starter switch) which takes about 10 seconds, but it greatly enhances the immersion.

[VMF-214_HaVoK]

Originally Posted by 41Sqn_Banks

Complex engine manamgent is not about starting the engine. It's about correct boost presure, correct rpm, correct limitations for both, correct throttle (for example a variable datum type boost control used on Merlin III vs. the more simple boost control in Merlin II), pitch handling and W.E.P. handling. Also overheating.

The flight model is not limited the stick control, your left hand on the throttle/pitch is also a important factor in the flight model.

I do not think there is any question that things you are talking about will be implemented in SoW.

S!

[41Sqn_Banks]

Originally Posted by VMF-214_HaVoK

I do not think there is any question that things you are talking about will be implemented in SoW.

S!

Sure they will be modeled, the question is only to which degree they are authentic

In Il-2:1946 there is no overboosting damage, no damage from flying to long at to high rpm and boost presure, no undercooling of the engine at high alt and so on.

[Zoom2136]

Originally Posted by 41Sqn_Banks

Sure they will be modeled, the question is only to which degree they are authentic

In Il-2:1946 there is no overboosting damage, no damage from flying to long at to high rpm and boost presure, no undercooling of the engine at high alt and so on.

And what about overcooling ???? This can happen in low power setting descent.....

[Avimimus]

Originally Posted by 41Sqn_Banks

Sure they will be modeled, the question is only to which degree they are authentic

In Il-2:1946 there is no overboosting damage, no damage from flying to long at to high rpm and boost presure, no undercooling of the engine at high alt and so on.

Wo-Ho! You can freeze your engine at low RPM and high altitude. It is modeled since FB!
I wouldn't be surprised if there was some damage from flying at high RPM too long (but it might be minor enough that you wouldn't notice)