Suggestion: forget multiplayer focus on sim for single player

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by MadBlaster

The U.S. release is psychologically important because it creates a mental barrier between the hope that this game will be fixed and devastation that it never will. Of course, we all know that July will be here soon...too soon really to get the game fixed. Hence, I suggest that 1C will consider my re-deployment strategy described above to extend everyone's hope for this game. It's very simple strategy. We all just say ourselves in your quiet voice, "the game hasn't come out yet, it's coming out next year". Then the webmasters around the world delete everything on CLoD. Then next year 1C delivers the change, a fixed game. It will work. I know it.

I would be fine with a re-release but why the media blanket campaign instead of being honest? Something like "our game has some serious issues, we will release in the west when they are fixed" and that's it.

I mean, what you describe won't ever work for one simple reason: you can't actually hope to control what's being posted all around the internet

Even if the main flight sim community forums go on with what you propose, they don't have 24/7 moderation and posts will slip through, it's easy as pie to get a personal blog up and running and link it on my forum sig, not to mention the avenues of things like facebook, youtube, etc...good luck bribing those to take down CoD related content and discussions, as they will either refuse outright or ask for way too much that 1c can't afford.

Long story short, what you describe is a non-enforceable censorship

On another note, don't count on me to retype every single FAQ/tutorial/guide i've posted on this forum if someone goes ahead and deletes the lot, i assume this goes for others too.
In other words, this will destroy whatever pool of community knowledge base we managed to built up to now, so i definitely disagree with this strategy.

On to the poll results, as of the time i'm making this post we have "both" in the lead with MP and SP sharing 2nd place with an equal amount of votes. If that doesn't place equal importance on both aspects i don't know what does

[MadBlaster]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

I would be fine with a re-release but why the media blanket campaign instead of being honest? Something like "our game has some serious issues, we will release in the west when they are fixed" and that's it.

It could be by design to ensure 1C gets as much feedback as possible from the beta testers. In other words, create an artificial deadline for US release to put the pressure on the beta testers to give as much feedback as possible over pre-scheduled period of time (e.g., 3 months). Anyway, I agree with you, that the deletion process would not be entirely manageable, and indeed potentially perceived as unfair to those who have typed a lot the last few months. I think this is where the "community manger" comes into play. Still waiting for that to develop. I do hope that when/if they re-release, they go back and call it BoB SOW. CLoDy CloT kinda sux. I wonder if we should do another poll: Question:"As a beta tester, would you support a re-release strategy?" I would vote yes, most definitely. My delete key is ready for action!!!

[FlyingShark]

Although I play almost never singleplayer, I voted to support both. MP for myself and others and SP for those who like SP.

~S~

[ATAG_Dutch]

Both. Definately both.

I enjoy making little film clips offline, using the FMB usually and getting this right is important for me (a guide to the new fmb is needed!).

I've already completed the RAF 'campaign' in the game, but also love getting online on a Friday night with some cans of beer and having a good laugh. Flying against real people will always be a more engaging experience than flying against AI.

[csThor]

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

There is no point in ignoring multiplayer for the benefit of single player. After all, the real BoB wasn't a single player game, you NEED human opposition to even remotely simulate what happened.

I respectfully disagree. Unless you can find me the RAF player who will agree to flying in tight Vees instead of the more flexible Rotte/Schwarm ... I believe one can't realistically recreate historical operations simply because the absolute majority of the players doesn't know the details of said operations nor would they follow the procedures and tactics of that era when it would go against their common sense.

Military operations are being conducted by strict hierarchical entities and flight sims are a means to spend one's freetime - not to reenact historical operations. If one seeks this he'll only be able to find it offline - for the AI will do whatever he wants without moaning, whining and complaining.

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

The state the AI is in especially, might as well be target drones being towed by C-47s.

That I - unfortunately - have to agree with.

[esmiol]

the multi is the more important in this kind of flight sim.

solo part is important ok but look. if il2 sturmovik is still play after 10 years it is not because of the offline part!

[csThor]

That's highly doubtful ... the only reason why one may think online has greater numbers is because they're visible (and noisy in various message boards) - the mass of players staying offline isn't visible.