Where are the game elements in this sim?

[TonyD]

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV

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The only people who seemed to benefit from that thread was the Rise of Flight team. I notice that a very great many of the features suggested in that topic are already announced for the new single player dynamic campaign announced for release this month.

I saw that and assumed they were making some effort in ‘getting back’ players who may have migrated to CoD – they made an oblique reference to CoD a short while ago, thanking their loyal fans for remaining knowing that a new sim had been released. They don’t need to know that we’ll play both of them anyway, but if some competition could be encouraged between them, won’t all of us benefit?

[GnigruH]

If there's a competition, RoF is winning it atm.

Well as Luthier as already stated the game was released only half finished in performance and content, i guess over the next year or so they may be able to get it operating well enough for simmers to start making a few missions and or campaigns. I can run the game well with my rig, but in truth its an effort to want to play it there are way too many annoyances and multiplay is still broken. Its kind of killed my enthusiasm for all things flight sim at the moment, but im sure that will return.

tbh I would rather donate 45 bucks I spent for CLOD - to ROF team, than to fill the whiny failures pockets (1C)...that simple...I dont even play CLOD because its not performing good on my (powerfull enough) rig, with all the optimisations and tweaks, and I dont like the ugly bright vivid cartoonish landscape, dont like the lack of proper AA....etc etc....etc..funny thing is that I cant even sell the damn failure since its connected with crap like Steam.....

I hope I will get over it soon as 45 bucks for central european guy is alot of money spent on crap..otherwise I would not bother and consider this as thank you for il2 orig and goodbye

I guess we would have more "whiners" (more angry customers in fact) that everybody knows the truth...which is - they knew right before the release that the game wasnt finished and optimised well....so they lied in our faces...hey spit in my face...what they can expect from me in return more than my money? probably to be a hypnotised die hard fun like some on this board....

[carguy_]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

I hope I will get over it soon as 45 bucks for central european guy is alot of money spent on crap..otherwise I would not bother and consider this as thank you for il2 orig and goodbye

Yeah, whatever. If you think that 45$ is a lot of money than I don`t think you should have bought it. Maybe you should THINK before you buy a game. Because if 45$ is a lot for you then maybe you should CHECK before you buy? Hmm?

Sims cost money, nothing new here. You gotta be prepared for spending money. If you can`t afford to spend 45$ in a manner you wouldn`t care for it too much, then I don`t think you are financially fit to the genre.

Same here. Central Europe. Over 40€ spent on the CE. Am I complaining?

Originally Posted by carguy_

Yeah, whatever. If you think that 45$ is a lot of money than I don`t think you should have bought it. Maybe you should THINK before you buy a game. Because if 45$ is a lot for you then maybe you should CHECK before you buy? Hmm?

Sims cost money, nothing new here. You gotta be prepared for spending money. If you can`t afford to spend 45$ in a manner you wouldn`t care for it too much, then I don`t think you are financially fit to the genre.

Same here. Central Europe. Over 40€ spent on the CE. Am I complaining?

Well I bought CLOD the because I trusted them (IL2 experience), and they released misleading vids and pics like the game is finished and smooth as silk....also they included anti epilepsy filter just before release not telling us anything..one patch brings performance increase for some and for some drop in performance...next patch other way around...we are in a never ending circle here....

[CharveL]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

Well I bought CLOD the because I trusted them (IL2 experience), and they released misleading vids and pics like the game is finished and smooth as silk....also they included anti epilepsy filter just before release not telling us anything..one patch brings performance increase for some and for some drop in performance...next patch other way around...we are in a never ending circle here....

I can't help but think you are - and probably should be - mostly mad at yourself for not waiting a week or two for reviews before parting with that small fortune you paid.

I have to agree completely with addman that even an optimist like myself is almost appalled at the complete lack of content to utilize what is an incredible amount of detail in the FM and DM.

The damage model alone has kept me interested - along with the fact I haven't been able to fire up the sim more than once every few days or so lately - and flying low and slow over the terrific landscape is an order of magnitude better than '46 even with mods.

Personally I didn't mind dropping $45 even at the alpha state it was released in, instead of waiting another year for a more complete product but it was not very smart of them to go about it the way they did. So much angst would have been allayed if they simply announced a full-priced paid open beta before US release. I would have still been first in line and those that wanted to save it for a more complete game could have waited.

Meantime I'm going to start looking for some user made missions.

[addman]

Originally Posted by CharveL

I can't help but think you are - and probably should be - mostly mad at yourself for not waiting a week or two for reviews before parting with that small fortune you paid.

I have to agree completely with addman that even an optimist like myself is almost appalled at the complete lack of content to utilize what is an incredible amount of detail in the FM and DM.

The damage model alone has kept me interested - along with the fact I haven't been able to fire up the sim more than once every few days or so lately - and flying low and slow over the terrific landscape is an order of magnitude better than '46 even with mods.

Personally I didn't mind dropping $45 even at the alpha state it was released in, instead of waiting another year for a more complete product but it was not very smart of them to go about it the way they did. So much angst would have been allayed if they simply announced a full-priced paid open beta before US release. I would have still been first in line and those that wanted to save it for a more complete game could have waited.

Meantime I'm going to start looking for some user made missions.

Thanks for recognising that I'm not a "whiner", I've been around since IL-2 pre-release and I consider myself a fan and an optimist but this game is really pushing my patience.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Maybe they're relying on a well established community.

See link here;

http://airwarfare.com/sow/index.php

[JG53Frankyboy]

for offliners the best missions/campaigns came from 3.party people in classic IL2.

the same will be for CoD (even its scenario is much more limited.......). BUT, with the lack of ducumentation and the more complex possibilites (espacially this scripting part) - it will take some time till the people get familiar with the CoD FMB.

one should not expect something from the official development team in that case !

and for onlines its the same actually, missions and maps have to be build...Onlineevents have to organzed. It will take its time.