Paccus HAWK-First joystick with hydraulic feedback

[Hexcaliber]

Originally Posted by Doc_uk

It sure does look ugly, and the price,€450 yea right i dont think so.
Will stick with my warthog, somthing that looks and feels like a flight stick

Where the heck are you guys seeing prices this low, the hawk is advertised on their site at €2,450.00 that's $3525.16 give or take a few cents per euro for current exchange rate fluctuation.

Way over priced, ugly, and poor ergonomic design that does not take usability into consideration, if they ship 10 units I will be amazed. Whoever designed this has never used a stick in a flight sim, that is for damn sure; it is immediately evident the developers did no research whatsoever on their target audience and the competition. It is sad to see any new startup destined for failure right out the gate but I cannot see any gaming market this unit will appeal to.

[engadin]

Originally Posted by Hexcaliber

Where the heck are you guys seeing prices this low, the hawk is advertised on their site at €2,450.00 that's $3525.16 give or take a few cents per euro for current exchange rate fluctuation.

Way over priced, ugly, and poor ergonomic design that does not take usability into consideration, if they ship 10 units I will be amazed. Whoever designed this has never used a stick in a flight sim, that is for damn sure; it is immediately evident the developers did no research whatsoever on their target audience and the competition. It is sad to see any new startup destined for failure right out the gate but I cannot see any gaming market this unit will appeal to.

Mate, sincerely, you should wait a little and start your week-end fiesta on saturday, thursday is still too soon to jump into a beer pool and drawn in it .... almost.

Would you mind to point out the actual url where your out-of-this-world prices are supposed to show up?

Last year - 2010 - prices were €390 for the Hawk (FFB) and €280 for the Falcon (no FFB). [http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t.../m/2661077438]

I am afraid exchange rates haven't fluctuated so much since then. Get a second look on your source of information, please.

Engadin.

[brando]

Originally Posted by engadin

Mate, sincerely, you should wait a little and start your week-end fiesta on saturday, thursday is still too soon to jump into a beer pool and drawn in it .... almost.

Would you mind to point out the actual url where your out-of-this-world prices are supposed to show up?

Last year - 2010 - prices were €390 for the Hawk (FFB) and €280 for the Falcon (no FFB). [http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t.../m/2661077438]

I am afraid exchange rates haven't fluctuated so much since then. Get a second look on your source of information, please.

Engadin.

Try here; http://www.paccus.com/forcefeedbackjoystickshop

Prices in the 1,000s of Euros: Hawk Price: € 2,397.00, Falcon Price: € 1,647.00 (no FFB)

[robtek]

This web-page doesn't exist anymore!

[brando]

Originally Posted by robtek

This web-page doesn't exist anymore!

The link I posted certainly does

http://www.paccus.com/forcefeedbackjoystickshop

[matsher]

Sadly, it does say on the website that it is 2397 Euro.

I am lefty so I support anything that caters for our breed. Sadly this interesting
piece of engineering is outta the question for about 95% of us. Even at the
stated £450 price mark... Thats sad cause I think it has great potential.

Especially with the ability to customize / interchange the sticks.
Maybe to a yoke design or a wheel attachment.

Companies like Saitek are great at ergonomics and design
but their build quality and components are so sub standard.

I'd welcome a new quality competitor however I must agree that at
that cost I'd rather buy myself a great used motorcycle than a joystick.

[T}{OR]

Originally Posted by matsher

Sadly, it does say on the website that it is 2397 Euro.

I am lefty so I support anything that caters for our breed. Sadly this interesting
piece of engineering is outta the question for about 95% of us. Even at the
stated £450 price mark... Thats sad cause I think it has great potential.

w00t?! +2000€?!

Flight sims are a niche market as it is, and this joystick no matter how good or real it feels / is - will be available to what, 0.0001% of the virtual pilots??

For this amount I'd rather buy a Warthog + Simped rudder pedals, and still have enough money to buy 2 or 3 spare ones of each!

[nearmiss]

Like a lead cloud, it just won't float.

[engadin]

Originally Posted by brando

Try here; http://www.paccus.com/forcefeedbackjoystickshop

Prices in the 1,000s of Euros: Hawk Price: € 2,397.00, Falcon Price: € 1,647.00 (no FFB)

Hi Brando, sorry but all I get is this:

'404 - Error
This is a standard message from your web browser indicating that the file trying to be accessed doesn't exist or isn't available; basically it means a dead end'.

You know what? These guys @ Paccus will also produce these joysticks versions for industrial and/or medical use. It is a plausible explanation that the high prices you provided were related to these professional sort of joysticks.

Engadin.

[uahallie]

Perfectly working homepage, and absolutely crazy prices for that ugly fail...sorry to say.

Originally Posted by engadin

Hi Brando, sorry but all I get is this:

'404 - Error
This is a standard message from your web browser indicating that the file trying to be accessed doesn't exist or isn't available; basically it means a dead end'.

You know what? These guys @ Paccus will also produce these joysticks versions for industrial and/or medical use. It is a plausible explanation that the high prices you provided were related to these professional sort of joysticks.

Engadin.