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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-26-2011, 11:58 AM
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Nats- your rant is actually very funny, and very wrong in so many ways (I cant be bothered pointing out how wrong, except to say that without the Soviet Union bleeding the Wermacht and Luftwaffe white there would have been no chance of the Allied nations storming into Europe).
When this series continues into other theatres of WW2 it will make a lot of sense to keep a simple colour scheme to set which side is which.
No-one is trying to rewrite history that Britain was communist, if that is what is bothering you
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Old 04-25-2011, 11:57 PM
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But if you want a decent 'tradition' WW2 model soldiers were always green for the allies and blue for the germans so why not do it like that - far more sensible that some unheard of IL2 tradition.
The tradition stretches back to IL-2 Sturmovik which was first released in 2001 and became a popular multiplayer game through that period into 2003 when Forgotten Battles was released. It's been Red for Allies and Blue for Axis ever since. Ten years... I'd say that's a fairly well established tradition as far as the digital world goes.

Green is an interesting choice for the Allies and I have seen that used before... nonetheless the pattern was set a long time ago (and it made sense then). It'll make sense in the context of this series when we head back to the Eastern Front. If the rumors are to be believed... we'll be heading back there reasonably soon too.
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:11 AM
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Their is the "RED FLAG" exercises that the Air Force runs...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Fla...s_Air_Force%29


In this case the "Blue Flag" is friendly, and the "Red Flag" is hostile.
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Old 04-25-2011, 06:14 AM
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2. US of A,

We could have let you ingrates starve, or fight the Germans off with sticks... Didn't see us exporting war materials to Hitler now did ya? We coulda been rich selling to both sides!
Can you tell us the "name" that the literature and news reports of 1942 - 1945 used for "The Allies"?
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Old 04-25-2011, 06:44 AM
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2. US of A,

We could have let you ingrates starve, or fight the Germans off with sticks... Didn't see us exporting war materials to Hitler now did ya? We coulda been rich selling to both sides!
Ummm
"The year following the end of World War II, GE stood accused of criminal conspiracy with Krupp, a major German munitions firm. Their partnership artificially raised the cost of U.S. defense preparations while helping to subsidize Hitler’s rearmament of Germany. The arrangement continued even after Nazi tanks smashed into Poland."

"GM and Ford, through their subsidiaries, controlled 70 percent of the German automobile market when war broke out in 1939. Those companies “rapidly retooled themselves to become suppliers of war materiel to the Germany army,”

"A senior executive of General Motors also received a medal from Hitler"
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Old 04-25-2011, 06:48 AM
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red/ blue corner from boxing/ wrestling matches.... Red being USSR in the early series il2
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:22 AM
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We could have let you ingrates starve, or fight the Germans off with sticks... Didn't see us exporting war materials to Hitler now did ya? We coulda been rich selling to both sides!
You were, you did.

Not that there's anything wrong with that sort of thing, of course.
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Old 04-26-2011, 01:26 AM
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We coulda been rich selling to both sides!
Really? What exactly would the Germans have paid with? I seem to recall that the Americans rather liked gold and colonial possessions as payment, and the Germans had been rather short on both since about 1919, and especially short of the former since about 1930. Indeed, had they not been, it's arguable that they might not have elected Hitler and started another war in the first place...

I was going to write down a list of Allies in 1940, but listing the various components of the Empire would have been tedious, and listing the rest of the Allies would have probably worn out the "F" "r" and "e" keys on my keyboard. So I won't.
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:41 PM
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[QUOTE=baronWastelan;272720]Who were the "Allies" exactly in July - Nov 1940? Let's start a list.

1. British Empire and British Commonwealth Nations
2. Poles
3. Norway
4. Free French
5. Tchecoslovakia
6. Netherland
7. Luxembourg
8. USA

It's not because your country got invaded that all forces of that country stopped fighting against the common enemy. A lot of volunteers from other nations helped Britain to go on and survive during the BoB. Help was small in size, but huge regarding personnal investment of all those freedom fighters.

Of course, Britain held the last effort after the german invaded every other ally on the continent, but hey, without the channel, the RAF would have had tanks on their runways too.

Remember that it took nearly 5 more years to defeat the german, and roughly 25 to 30 million of more casualties...
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Luftwaffe radio codes
Blaue Truppen = own troops
Check this website: http://www.angelfire.com/pr/jg53/s3f.htm

That makes sense
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