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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-18-2011, 09:43 PM
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+1 to Realism, with the options for news for change in the settings
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Old 04-18-2011, 10:29 PM
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For the pro Needle bouncers have a look at this track about 3:17 in .... no bounce just a tiny little bit of hunting after they reach 2050 RPM and thats pretty much what we have now in CLOD. So 2 videos so far validating the lack of needle bounce.



So the realism with respect needle bounce (or lack thereof) has actually been improved !

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Old 04-19-2011, 12:22 AM
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do you have one of the Hurricane (OEM equipment for the period ingame) though?
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Old 04-19-2011, 02:26 AM
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Just think about the old mechanical speedometers from back when cars were good.
This works the same way. The needle bounce seemed way over exaggerated.

A very slight wobble seems correct and only a large wobble would occur if the cable was incorrectly installed or damaged. The mechanical type would snap eventually if this was the case.

I don't know much about the gauges from back then but I would be surprised if they were not oil dampened to further reduce wobble.
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Old 04-19-2011, 03:05 AM
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Not a hurricane, but reference the mad bouncing ASI and Altimeter - look over the pilot's shoulder here - a small wobble, but by no means the mad bouncing that we see in game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...l97XwktE#t=88s

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Old 04-19-2011, 04:32 AM
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Good video ... there the next thing to work on I guess ... but you know if they are changed there will be ASI/ALT needle bounce withdrawal hysteria

There is an exceptional commercial DVD off Hurricane R4118 I doing a display with split screen in the pit looking at the panel (not over the shoulder) and the outside world from the camera gun port in the starboard wing. It shows a similar thing. there is a little ASI wobble, next to no altimeter wobble and a good indication of AH precession as well, which implies that AH precession is a little overdone at the moment. Instrumentation is all original too boot.

http://www.itvv.com/product/R4118

The Devs are aware of this DVD.

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Old 04-19-2011, 05:00 AM
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realisim please! that's why we buy the game.

i will not buy future installments if you do away with historical features simply because some don't "get" it.
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Old 04-19-2011, 05:07 AM
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+1 for realism, for whatever it is (I am no expert on bouncy meters )

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Old 04-19-2011, 08:38 AM
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For the pro Needle bouncers have a look at this track about 3:17 in .... no bounce just a tiny little bit of hunting after they reach 2050 RPM and thats pretty much what we have now in CLOD. So 2 videos so far validating the lack of needle bounce.



So the realism with respect needle bounce (or lack thereof) has actually been improved !

Can you tell the exact model of the tachometer?

Here's another one, BUT comparing with a plane present in the simulator, the Tiger Moth...



I don't know what you see here, I see a very imprecise, vibrating and bouncing needle...
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Old 04-19-2011, 09:42 AM
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They shake a bit and hunt but the in game bouncing 'is' a little extreme, and they bounce the same way if the engine coughs or if you hit turbulence, I would only expect an instrument to bounce like that landing on a grass strip. etc......needs to be toned down IMO, that shouldn't mean taking away realism by making RPM electric......just fix the exessive bounce.
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