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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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No I do not have Steam but will for CoD 52 11.06%
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Old 03-13-2011, 03:02 PM
JG301_HaJa JG301_HaJa is offline
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I thought I wouldn't post here but I have to make a remarque about those commenting about those not buying due to STEAM isn't supportive.

I dare to say those reluctant are the oldtimers, I'm one myself. I have decided not to buy initially because I want to see what happens with SolidShield as DRM and STEAM together.

Furthermore, the more I read about STEAM in official sites and by searching I'm leaning towards a no go whatever the case.

But now to the initial point. Most of the oldtimers like myself has bought every single CD/DVD produced by OM and thus supported him and 1C all the way possible. Most of us, me included, has been simming the better part of the last decade and then some.

We are old enough not to take "sweet talk" by companies like STEAM supplier by the word thus keeping a healthy skeptical approach. There is no such thing as a free lunch after all.

With STEAM you're not buying a licence but a subscription and as such it can be revoked at any time and you can't do anything about it. That together with extensive data-mining is enough for some of us to be apprehensive about this move.

With that said I respect all people liking STEAM but I do feel that for us wanting a DVD STEAM would not be required as per ARMA2 for instance.

regards and sorry for the spelling
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Old 03-13-2011, 05:17 PM
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I thought I wouldn't post here but I have to make a remarque about those commenting about those not buying due to STEAM isn't supportive.

I dare to say those reluctant are the oldtimers, I'm one myself. I have decided not to buy initially because I want to see what happens with SolidShield as DRM and STEAM together.

Furthermore, the more I read about STEAM in official sites and by searching I'm leaning towards a no go whatever the case.

But now to the initial point. Most of the oldtimers like myself has bought every single CD/DVD produced by OM and thus supported him and 1C all the way possible. Most of us, me included, has been simming the better part of the last decade and then some.

We are old enough not to take "sweet talk" by companies like STEAM supplier by the word thus keeping a healthy skeptical approach. There is no such thing as a free lunch after all.

With STEAM you're not buying a licence but a subscription and as such it can be revoked at any time and you can't do anything about it. That together with extensive data-mining is enough for some of us to be apprehensive about this move.

With that said I respect all people liking STEAM but I do feel that for us wanting a DVD STEAM would not be required as per ARMA2 for instance.

regards and sorry for the spelling
I've been playing flight sims since the 1980's....i'm quite happy to use steam....speak for yourself.. as your not really qualified to speak for others.
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Old 03-13-2011, 06:23 PM
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I've been playing flight sims since the 1980's....i'm quite happy to use steam....speak for yourself.. as your not really qualified to speak for others.
Agreed, been playing since the 80's. Times move on and Steam is not some evil corporation that will sacrifice your first born.
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Old 03-14-2011, 05:46 PM
JG301_HaJa JG301_HaJa is offline
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I've been playing flight sims since the 1980's....i'm quite happy to use steam....speak for yourself.. as your not really qualified to speak for others.
Absolutely correct, wasn't intended in that fasion. Difficult to be correct all the time when English is'nt my native language, I appologize how it came out.

Still I think those raising their voice in concern shouldn't be dissmissed as anti-progression. I don't mind download versions. That is how I got RoF, Flaming Cliffs and DCS but I just don't like STEAM due to all the facts (as I see them) available in their EULA and in other forums and so on so forth. If that makes me a bad individual and marked as unsupportive of OM and 1C then that be it.

I will still be happy with all other sims on my PC and I don't have all the time in the world anyway with family and fulltime job.
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