YaDeLi - "Yet another Device Link for IL-2"

[Artist]

Originally Posted by MikkOwl

I read random past friday upates since late 2009 and at some point they talked about it. The plan was to keep it, but expand upon an ddevelop it more. And to remove the restrictions for it in multiplayer. I am sure that it will technically work the same way. Just different framework version.

I sincearly hope you're right...

Originally Posted by MikkOwl

Wrestling the reversal bug bullshit seems to be a required past time for the upcoming year yet.

Well, for those who will not follow the path of moddding their G940s, that might be true: I have serious doubts about Logitech on that matter. But I do not see any working way to combine a software workaround for the Reversal Bug in the rudder pedals with their spring-center-positioning (except maybe physically removing the spring). Quoting the YaDeLi manual on its handling of the Reversal Bug:

This works just fine on the „0 - 100“ axes (throttles, R1, R2), but not so well on the „100 - 0 - 100“ axes (such as trims and rudder) as the middle position of the physical stick and the 50% reported may not always coincide due to multiple „Reversal Bug“-corrections. With the trims that might be bearable - on the rudder pedals it‘s hell. Better mod your G940 with a BU0836X...

Concerning YaDeLi and Autohotkey:

Originally Posted by MikkOwl

If devicelink is open and welcoming with several different connections at the same time , maybe the development should be best spent on specializing a focus for each of our two program efforts. [...] Mostly axis solutions [...] for YaDeLi [...] AutoHotKey is the bomb for button and even sound effects easily added, and can be used to control the LEDs in the G940.

I totally agree. And we should work closely together on who integrates what...

... which brings me to the request robtek voiced earlier in this thread: Differential braking. The concept seems clear to me: Provided the tailwheel is not locked, you probably compare the two brake-forces (left and right) applied and put the rudder to the side of the smaller force. If they are the same you don't move the rudder at all. Before I start a lot of experimenting: Am I correct? And what ratio do you use between force-differential and rudder?

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[Tailspin45]

This little app is just what I need. It's elegantly simple and very nicely designed. But I have a weird problem when I use it.

With both my joystick (Warthog) and driver (win7) calibrated, IL2 aircraft fly straight and level. Until I use YaDeLi to add rudder pedals. Then they have a left rolling tendency so severe that full opposite aileron trim doesn't prevent it.

I also find that the aircraft are very twitchy, for lack of a better term, despite assigning curves to all the axis. In fact, it seems as if there's some kind of crosstalk between the axes.

Now, this all may not be a problem with YaDeLi and it's only revealing some other issue I didn't know I had. But I can't fly without rudders (I'm a taildragger kinda guy) and I can't install them without YaDeLi.

Anyone have any idea what the problem may be?

[Artist]

Hi Tailspin45,

at first guess it seems to me that you've assigned joystick axes both in IL-2 and YaDeLi...

Please describe your hardware setup in detail: Number of usb game controllers, their respective IDs (use JoyIDs), settings.ini (from the ..\Users\pilotname folder), Screenshots from YaDeLi.

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[Tailspin45]

I've paid hundreds of dollars for software that doesn't work as well as yours, and have endured, sometimes, waiting days only to get a response to a technical question. And then only to received a canned reply that's unrelated to my problem.

You? Forty-two minutes and spot on! Yeah, I -- dumbshit that I am -- do have axis defined in Il2 and YaDeLi.

In the unlikely event that doesn't solve the problem I'll reply again with the set-up. But I'd say thats definitely the issue.

A huge thank you for your great software and great support.

[Tailspin45]

I couldn't figure out how to remove the axis assignments in the HOTAS section, so I just deleted them from the config file.

However, all controls go full nose down, full left wing down, full left rudder, almost like runaway trim. I can center them using ALT + LEFT, + RIGHT, and + Z, but after any movement of the axis they go back to full throw.

The files you requested are at
http://teleworkresearchnetwork.com/w...IL2_YaDeLi.zip

Thanks in advance for your efforts to solve this problem. Very much appreciated.

[Artist]

Mhm.

Originally Posted by Tailspin45

I couldn't figure out how to remove the axis assignments in the HOTAS section, so I just deleted them from the config file.

Good.

Originally Posted by Tailspin45

However, all controls go full nose down, full left wing down, full left rudder, almost like runaway trim. I can center them using ALT + LEFT, + RIGHT, and + Z, but after any movement of the axis they go back to full throw.

Strange, because:

Originally Posted by Tailspin45

The files [...]

... show nothing unusual.

Could you please let me have a look at the number of usb game controllers and their respective IDs (use JoyIDs)?

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[Artist]

Hi Tailspin45,

one thing is unusual (no offence meant ): There's a "__MACOSX" folder in the archive - do you run IL-2 within MacOS (with Wine)?

In any case, the symptoms you describe may result from
- Your hardware is sending funny stuff (test with "usb game controllers", properties)
- YaDeLi is receiving funny stuff (it uses DirectInput, DirectX)
- YaDeLi is sending funny stuff (however unlikely that is )
- IL-2 is receiving funny stuff (network garbled, proxied, )
- IL-2 has some inner conflict (controller shizophrenia - but you've solved that apparently)

We would have to check that step by step.
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