Orcs on the March thread

[bucazaurus]

Complete List of Quests:

Teana:
The Prophecy: Stones of the Gods
Journey to Teana

Debir:
Trading License
Amulet of Illumination
Snakes on the Loose!
Revenge upon Lady Magnet
Monster from the Abyss
The Hungry Beast
- Demenion's Spy
Preparing for Travel
Curvy Eyes the Robber
Training in the Warriors Guild
-Secrets of the Warriors of Light
-Secrets of the Martial Arts
-Secrets of the Magical Arts
-The Tower of Eventus
-Admission to the Military Academy
-Red Scrounger and the March of the Orcs

Scarlet Wind:
Goodman's Last Ambush.
Recruiter Hector Norbu
Richard the Cruel
The Fallen Paladin
Contraband Searcher
- The Efforts of Master Lothar

Bolo:
Run-away Erica
Destroy the Ancient Droid
Unruly Axe
Vengeance of Egerd the Toothless
Barbarian Hall of Fame
Barbarian Thrasher

Rusty Anchor:
The Grinskin Gang
Swill Antidote
Bottled Conscience
Mercenaries for Sohaty

Verona:
Demenion's Secret
Storm the Fortress of Bristol
King's Bride
Liberate the Duke of Delaware
Traveling for Beer

Tekron:
Gemstone Mines
Spirits of the Temple of Sorrow
Secret of the Superlative Soap
Submarine
Treasures of the Abyss
Dragon – Terror of the Dwarves

Dersu:
Starving Dersu-Kumatu
The Power of the Temple of Joy
Bagouri's Love
The Giant Spider
Glasses for Old Bobur

Uzala:
Rapasol's Nightmare
Defeat the Giant Frog
Traveler's Diary
Griida's Guile
Hunting Brontor

Elon:
Mirror Tower
Shenobi's Burial
Falling Star Je-Lo-Pi
Traitor Zilgadis
Storm the Elven Capital!
Master of Magic
Chief Shenobi, son of Uchkuk
Lew Klisan's Soul

Umkas:
Owl of Wisdom
Pirate Treasure
The Poacher

Nameless:
Disciple of Mistikus
Grimoire of Darkness
Message from the Dead
Treasure of Jack Albatross
Vegetarian Vampire
The Statue of the Dark Warrior

Montero:
The Devious Plan of the Hagni Family
Levers and Gears
Vengeance of the Sober Miners
Crazy Miner
Free Giraks, King of the dwarves!
Destroy the Driller
Necromancer Mesmer
The Power of the Three Kings
The Terrible Study of Necromancy

Sheterra:
Plight of the Slave
Demon in Stone
Release Hephaestus
Hunting the Vampire
Skinner, the Mad Tanner
Lord of Sheterra
- Deliver Arian's Order

Reha:
K'Sar's memory
Champion of the Arena of Death
Singing Dagger
Traitor to the Tribe
A Message from Shionis
Downfall of K'Tahu
The Red Branch
Secrets of the Temple

[ckdamascus]

Hm. I counted your list, and it shows 94, however, we must remove two of them since you cannot get all of the

-Secrets of the Warriors of Light
-Secrets of the Martial Arts
-Secrets of the Magical Arts

quests, which would lead to 92.

I'm at a loss, since it clearly says 93 on my side and I didn't use any cheats.

Maybe it is a bug.

I did get 92 with my other class.

[Zechnophobe]

Orcs on the March is a much more.. challenging thing to do no-loss. The new orc units are surprisingly good at making you lose pretty much anything. They REALLY like to do astral damage.

A lot of the same strategies ultimately work, but there are substantially more 'problem' creatures to face. Goblin Shamans and Blood Shamans, for instance. Both Ogres are noticeably more annoying.

I do like that they've added Fauns. Makes that plant army much much more viable.

We'll see how things change when we get to the end game. I am doing no loss impossible(mage) using the Dragon Army right now (I had black dragons on Rusty, and 8 red dragon's on Verona... how can you NOT do that?).

Level 24, and going strong. Had to do a few reloads when I kept doing stupid stuff against orcs though. One turn without Target-controlling bunch of shamans, and they ripped my units to pieces. So ridiculous.

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by Zechnophobe

Orcs on the March is a much more.. challenging thing to do no-loss. The new orc units are surprisingly good at making you lose pretty much anything. They REALLY like to do astral damage.

A lot of the same strategies ultimately work, but there are substantially more 'problem' creatures to face. Goblin Shamans and Blood Shamans, for instance. Both Ogres are noticeably more annoying.

I do like that they've added Fauns. Makes that plant army much much more viable.

We'll see how things change when we get to the end game. I am doing no loss impossible(mage) using the Dragon Army right now (I had black dragons on Rusty, and 8 red dragon's on Verona... how can you NOT do that?).

Level 24, and going strong. Had to do a few reloads when I kept doing stupid stuff against orcs though. One turn without Target-controlling bunch of shamans, and they ripped my units to pieces. So ridiculous.

Yeah, Orcs are ridiculously strong. Once you learn how to deal with them, it isn't too bad. The item distribution of Crossworld's tends to make it easier to do certain combinations, so the no-loss should be just as achievable (heck, even I can do it!) or sometimes easier. (sometimes...)

At least you get some better spells, like Black Hole!

Also, Ancient Phoenix and Dragon of Chaos are SIGNIFICANTLY improved.

If you think the roaming Orc stacks right now are hard, wait until you face one of the new Orc Heroines.... Scrounger.

Yeah, one time I didn't disable, or phantom, or target against the Scrounger army... my entire army was wiped out in a single turn.

@jake21, I'll do the official count from my saved game. Should be done by tonight.

VERY troubling. I manually wrote all the quests down, it adds up to 92. Yet, my high score says 93. I guess it is another bug.

[atlatea]

Most annoying orc unit is ogre.

Shamans can be disabled by target or other disable spell/ unit talent/skill.

But this ogre, i hate them the most of all unit, second only to black dragon in my list of most hated unit.

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by atlatea

Most annoying orc unit is ogre.

Shamans can be disabled by target or other disable spell/ unit talent/skill.

But this ogre, i hate them the most of all unit, second only to black dragon in my list of most hated unit.

You mean you don't like it when they do the little dance, then proceed to run across the entire map to smash your units?

Then, they go into a rage, and smash up more units?

I found ways to deal with them, but they are undoubtedly very annoying.

If you can't beat them, join them! I used Ogres in my last playthrough, mwhaha. Take that evil computer. Take a dose of the its own porc medicine!

[Zechnophobe]

Originally Posted by ckdamascus

Yeah, Orcs are ridiculously strong. Once you learn how to deal with them, it isn't too bad. The item distribution of Crossworld's tends to make it easier to do certain combinations, so the no-loss should be just as achievable (heck, even I can do it!) or sometimes easier. (sometimes...)

At least you get some better spells, like Black Hole!

Also, Ancient Phoenix and Dragon of Chaos are SIGNIFICANTLY improved.

If you think the roaming Orc stacks right now are hard, wait until you face one of the new Orc Heroines.... Scrounger.

Yeah, one time I didn't disable, or phantom, or target against the Scrounger army... my entire army was wiped out in a single turn.

@jake21, I'll do the official count from my saved game. Should be done by tonight.

VERY troubling. I manually wrote all the quests down, it adds up to 92. Yet, my high score says 93. I guess it is another bug.

The number of 'danger' units really increased with orcs on the march. Y'know, the units you often need to give special attention to. Blood Shamans and Goblin Shamans are both.. ugh. Heck even normal Goblins can be incredibly annoying if they double attack... or triple attack in a single round.

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by Zechnophobe

The number of 'danger' units really increased with orcs on the march. Y'know, the units you often need to give special attention to. Blood Shamans and Goblin Shamans are both.. ugh. Heck even normal Goblins can be incredibly annoying if they double attack... or triple attack in a single round.

Triple? I've seen it attack FIVES times in a row. Reload time.

Yeah, they are annoying. In my warrior (Shrek Ogre) game, I didn't get Target until I went to fight Mistikus and dug it up. So... I basically didn't have Target.

I dealt with them by using sheer firepower and Drain or occasionally throwing in blind.

If you don't have a very powerful strategy, it is extremely tough.

I also didn't need Target much, if at all for my Mage (Summoner Build) either. A part of it is also because the buff in 1.3.1 for rune mage's summons makes my "sacrificial lambs" much stronger against the astral attacks and I can revive much more.

[Zechnophobe]

So, I just tried out the level 3 Chaos Dragon...

That thing is a *monster*. Especially with 45 intellect. I need to grab order 3 now (something I rarely do) just to see what the ancient phoenix is like. The area fire damage plus 3 tile knockback on the chaos dragon is one HECK of a thing. And it always survives the first hit... I didn't even have the summoner skill.

I can see how these new rare summons could make such an army 'work'. VERY mana intensive though .

[torquemada]

I'm currently playing mage/impossible at level 35.
I've found that getting the free emerald dragon early makes a whole lot of difference. I am such a fan of dragons, I got lucky and found 4 black ones at rusty anchor and 3 red ones at verona. If you play carefully it's quite easy to get no loss victories. My current setup is: Black dragons, red dragons, paladins, rune mages, demonologists. I try to do as much damage with my dragons as I can while getting as little damage in return (wait command, abilities, fear/slow, damaging strong stacks by attacking the weaker adjacent one). I use lvl 3 heal alot on my reds but I need to be extra careful with the black ones though, but they can be healed and even resurrected by the rune mages, don't know if any other ability can heal black dragons (maybe shamans?).
Currently this setup is owning the battlefield.