Patch 4.10 Tuesday update 2010-21-12

[FC99]

Originally Posted by Wutz

I was just stating that the main attention does seem to be going towards the furballers and less towards the mission friends.
But that is just my opinion, and I do believe I may voice it, just like everyone else?

Of course that you can voice your opinion, it's just that your opinion and facts doesn't match. If you take a better look at 4.10 plane list you can see that only popular plane there is Spitfire, everything else are bombers and lesser known planes.

"New" Spitfires are new in terms of FM, there are only minor changes in 3d model of some variants which means that only couple of hours were spent on 3d models. Considering importance of the Spitfire in WWII, making some changes in Spitfire family was very efficient in terms of cost/benefit.

For brand new 3d models you need lot more than that. As all members of DT are working on patch in their free time that time is very limited which also limits the number of new 3d models we can make.

That's why we will take any( except planes made by Grumman) 3rd party model done by required standards and include it in game. So if you want plane XXX in game you need to find somebody who will make 3d model.

I know, you will ask why DT don't make XXX. Well, answer is simple, we are working for free in our free time and I think that it should be understandable that we have right to spend our free time on things that are fun for us. If making XXX is not fun for any of DT member that is just a bad luck.

FC

[fabianfred]

someone else asked about the FMB triggers but got no reply...any news on them?

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

There will be info about left-out-features soon.

[Wutz]

Originally Posted by FC99

Of course that you can voice your opinion, it's just that your opinion and facts doesn't match. If you take a better look at 4.10 plane list you can see that only popular plane there is Spitfire, everything else are bombers and lesser known planes.

"New" Spitfires are new in terms of FM, there are only minor changes in 3d model of some variants which means that only couple of hours were spent on 3d models. Considering importance of the Spitfire in WWII, making some changes in Spitfire family was very efficient in terms of cost/benefit.

For brand new 3d models you need lot more than that. As all members of DT are working on patch in their free time that time is very limited which also limits the number of new 3d models we can make.

That's why we will take any( except planes made by Grumman) 3rd party model done by required standards and include it in game. So if you want plane XXX in game you need to find somebody who will make 3d model.

I know, you will ask why DT don't make XXX. Well, answer is simple, we are working for free in our free time and I think that it should be understandable that we have right to spend our free time on things that are fun for us. If making XXX is not fun for any of DT member that is just a bad luck.

FC

Don´t get me wrong, I very much appriciate what you fellows are doing!
There just seemed a tendancy towards certain models. That you fellows are already doing a lot & that miricales take a little longer I know very well.
It would have been nice if a non allied twin engine bomber could have been made flyable, like the Ki21 which is as AI available. That it is most likely a lot of work too I know. That is why I am hoping that in SoW maybe the pacific theatre might get a little more attention.
Popular demand just seems to be differant than that what people enjoy, who like flying missions. That is all, nothing more nothing less. So please do not feel offended.

[HanneG]

Sorry if it's been already been mentioned, typo in G-limit section "loose" instead of lose.

[JG53Frankyboy]

also the Do217K didnt came in service 1941

[OberstDanjeje]

I must admit I'd like to have even more Spit, Bf109 and Fw190, so keep working on this line, many person will be very happy
And hope for some other Bf110 version too.
And thanks again for this patch very fully of big improvement!!!

[KWM_Schnaps]

I highly respect the job done by DT.
All the more that you do it for free, and seemingly without a hope of getting a single buck out of it.
Thanks a lot for taking up the gauntlet, for your efforts and for bringing new evolutions to our beloved sim.
This said, I agree with Wutz (probably because I too am an old grinch...)
What good will it bring to have a dozen new Spitfire models if AI still sees through clouds?
Or if AI planes are still able to fly @ 110% power without overheating?
Or if some russian guns still keep their 0° dispersion?
Frankly, except receiving hurrahs from the Spit's fans, let me doubt.
I agree that it's very efficient. Useful is another matter.
You probably took quite some time building up a full functional cockpit for the CW21.
Could you remind me how many did fly in operations? And how many victories were scored with it?
In the meantime, we're still stuck with 0 flyable french plane, just to take another example...
Even though some 3D models are already included in the "old" stock game.
As far as I can remember, the MS406 did fly in significant numbers, and shot down quite a few German planes in French hands, and Russian ones when flown by the Finns.
So it would have been no bigger deal, and there's at least as much documentation available for the MS406 as for the CW21.
I know and accept the fact that you cannot please everybody in the community.
And that you will develop what pleases one or the other member of the team.
Just my 2 cts.
PS: Merry Christmas to you all!

[ECV56_Guevara]

Great DT!
there are some features I am waiting anxious others not at all but I take this patch as mi chritsmas present. Thanks!!!
DT Two question : are you taking vacations after the release or are you start working in the next pacth?
There are more features than those that appears in the PDF?
Thanks again DT! Merry Xmas !!

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

Originally Posted by ECV56_Guevara

Great DT!
there are some features I am waiting anxious others not at all but I take this patch as mi chritsmas present. Thanks!!!
DT Two question : are you taking vacations after the release or are you start working in the next pacth?
There are more features than those that appears in the PDF?
Thanks again DT! Merry Xmas !!

Thanks for your kind words!
Q.1: Of cause we are going in vacation, as we are going into bed each evening. We are simple people. This is not our 'daily work to earn money' - it is kind of hobby. Maybe we find time for a hobby during a vacation...
Q.2: Yes! We already found one new thing, that we missed to name in the readme/guide. I'm curious if you find it. But generally we didn't left out something on purpose, just to surprise you. Sorry.