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IL-2 Sturmovik The famous combat flight simulator.

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Old 12-08-2010, 05:34 PM
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You do not understand. I'd like to know their sources of data they implement into the game. Books, graphs, etc.
You should ask 1C Maddox games, not TD.
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Old 12-08-2010, 05:56 PM
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Of course we have sources for everything, that WE implement or change. I'd even say, the biggest collection about everything. I'm always astonished, what our 'delivery boys' dig out to every theme. XD

But we will definitly not start to prove here everything before you. Either you believe, that we do the most possible to have a realistic simulation, or you just don't. Its up to you. We won't beg for.
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Old 12-08-2010, 08:23 PM
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Of course we have sources for everything, that WE implement or change. I'd even say, the biggest collection about everything. I'm always astonished, what our 'delivery boys' dig out to every theme. XD

But we will definitly not start to prove here everything before you. Either you believe, that we do the most possible to have a realistic simulation, or you just don't. Its up to you. We won't beg for.
We HAVE TO BELIEVE...hm...nice. Why don't YOU believe when someone posts any data ? Are we something less than you ? No matter if you like it or not, you're modders just like the others, creating your own pack...

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Old 12-08-2010, 09:18 PM
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I can't believe the amount of negativity in this thread. It boggles the imagination. Daidalos Team has given so much to the community already (patch 4.09). Nobody denies this. They will continue to deliver massive improvements to the whole IL-2 community provided they don't give up in disgust after reading all the negative, character assassinating, childish and just plain impolite posts here. Modders of any kind, DT or not, will only work on things that interest them. This has been the rule since soundmod came out in 2008. I don't understand how all the angry people here (many of whom are heavily involved with their own mod-packs, which are used by thousands of people) feel they can demand changes from DT in such a disrespectful manner. This is a "requests" thread, not a "do-it-now-or-else-you-suck" thread. Never lose sight of this. Frankly, I'm surprised DT still bothers to respond here.

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Old 12-08-2010, 09:21 PM
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No demand from my side, only requests.
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Old 12-08-2010, 10:53 PM
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I can't believe the amount of negativity in this thread. It boggles the imagination. Daidalos Team has given so much to the community already (patch 4.09). Nobody denies this. They will continue to deliver massive improvements to the whole IL-2 community provided they don't give up in disgust after reading all the negative, character assassinating, childish and just plain impolite posts here. Modders of any kind, DT or not, will only work on things that interest them. This has been the rule since soundmod came out in 2008. I don't understand how all the angry people here (many of whom are heavily involved with their own mod-packs, which are used by thousands of people) feel they can demand changes from DT in such a disrespectful manner. This is a "requests" thread, not a "do-it-now-or-else-you-suck" thread. Never lose sight of this. Frankly, I'm surprised DT still bothers to respond here.

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But keep in mind the 99.9% of other Il2 players who are not posting here and just out there enjoying il2 while 4.10 is in the works. People need to relax about this stuff, I don't know what it is about internet forums that gets everyone so worked up, someone should fund a study about this




anywhoo wayyy OT

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Old 12-08-2010, 11:41 PM
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But keep in mind the 99.9% of other Il2 players who are not posting here and just out there enjoying il2 while 4.10 is in the works. People need to relax about this stuff, I don't know what it is about internet forums that gets everyone so worked up, someone should fund a study about this

anywhoo wayyy OT
I know :\. I just pine for the atmosphere of the beginning of this thread where the requests and discussion were so polite and respectful and everyone had a feeling that we were getting somewhere.

Cheers,

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Old 12-09-2010, 12:16 AM
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All I want for xmas is a round engine that starts like this ....



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Old 12-09-2010, 07:17 AM
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We HAVE TO BELIEVE...hm...nice. Why don't YOU believe when someone posts any data ?
Because we are responsible for the results!!! The initial developer gives his good name on everything we do, so we must be 100% sure, that everything is done correctly. There is no space for 'believing'.
The only thing, YOU could loose, is maybe only your fun.

Suspicious issues will be taken care of, sooner or later. No matter if its bombs or whatever.


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Are we something less than you ? No matter if you like it or not, you're modders just like the others, creating your own pack...
We are not modders! We are developers. We are official, we have the tools. We have to care for sensible matters. We have big responsibilities. No matter, if you like it or not.

And what we are not at all: a toy for you!
Luckily you alone (or you handfull) are not representing the community.

And you should work on your selfesteem.
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Old 12-09-2010, 07:26 AM
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To all:

We apprecciate your requests, we recognise them, we discuss some of them (not all, sorry), we even work on them (some, not all). Priorities of such are set by ourself (you might agree on this being our good right).
We know, that the people here posting, are a low percent of the whole community, and we try to judge from this, what is best. Few individuals, that are kind of offending us, will not be taken as 'the community speakers'.

And we will try in future, not to be drawn into such situations like this again.

All I wanna say, is: we are there, we read you, even, if we do not answer everything.
Please feel stimulated to continue requesting in good manners.
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