Ethics of pilots fighting for the sides in WWII

[Aquarius]

Yes,prooved that flight sim lovers are generally wise people

I like the possibility to fly in Bf109 and other axis aircraft and really dont like bias of Call of duty 1,2,..; Medal of Honor; etc.
I understand that developers dont wonna be under press of society, but really dont think that the opportunity to play another side means automatically propaganda of some inhuman movements or whatever. Maybe it could be, but only if the developers give this feature to it.

Just dont understand the people who are thinking that killing axis soldiers in game is good but killing the allies is bad...

[AWL_Spinner]

One additional thing I would say on this topic, and it's not pilot related so I apologize for thread drift, is that everyone should read The Forgotten Soldier by Guy Sajer at some point in their lives. Regardless of any minor quibbles over historical details, it is a remarkable and powerful book that serves to humanise the scared face of youth in an adversaries' uniform.

And it's easy to forget how young a lot of the combatants were, both on the ground and in the air (both in the Battle of Britain and later in the war). I'm still amazed at what Geoffrey Wellum was doing at 17, and that Guy Gibson was a Wing Commander by 23. What was I doing between those ages? Not a great deal to write home about!

Cheers, Spinner

[Theshark888]

Originally Posted by BadAim

Actually, the Luftwaffe was probably the least Nazi organization extant in Germany during WWII

I know you are wrong about that one. I have read much about this and the LW was the MOST Nazi organization besides the Waffen SS. Reserach this, you may be surprised!

[BadAim]

Originally Posted by Theshark888

I know you are wrong about that one. I have read much about this and the LW was the MOST Nazi organization besides the Waffen SS. Reserach this, you may be surprised!

I'm just writing from my impressions of nearly 40 years of reading on the subject, I'm fully capable of being wrong. The Waffen SS was actually a very pan European organization by the end of the war, many of it's members much less interested in Nazism, than joining the fight against communism.

In the end I suppose it's silly to argue the point anyway, as they were all on the wrong side.

I think, if you go by official Nazi party records, the Navy actually had the most party members, but of course since the navy was for most of the war represented by the U-boat service I doubt any one here is going to want to short change those guys on their big old clanky iron balled due.

[Igo kyu]

Originally Posted by WTE_Galway

Well as they say "History is written by the victors."

This is sometimes true, but not always. What is much more true is that history is written in the main by the survivors, and that is a big bias.

[Friendly_flyer]

Just to go back on topic for a moment:

I mainly fly RAF, because I've always been partial to the machines (particularly the Hurri) and partially because of growing up in Norway in the 70ies (the RNAF has strong ties to the RAF from the war, the squadrons are even numbered as part of the RAF system). Having said that, I fly whatever side or whatever plane tickles my fancy: German late war wonderplanes, Italian birds (the SM 79 is great!), Soviet ground hogs or any rickety double decker. Mostly i enjoy flying for whomever is the underdog. That is a rather typical human trait. I don't fly American planes much, mostly because the US were top dogs for most of the war, and because I don't like their planes much. Polished metal has never been my thing. The Martlet is a great little plane though.