Friday 2010-09-17 Dev. update and Discussions

[GBrutus]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Oleg, I have been reseaching the flight-kit again, and I have been speeking with people who have had the pleasure of getting into the spitfire'c cokpit in flying gear, and each has said that it is is impossible for the pilot to wear an Irvin flying jacket. The cramped cockpit would make it impossible for the pilot to get the right-head movement which would be needed in combat.
I hope that this is useful information for you to use. A Hurricane pilot had the luxury of being able to wear an Irvin in the pit, but I would imagine this unlikely during the hot summer.
(also, if the pilot is fitting in the spit perfectly with the Irvin on, does this mean the pilot model is off? This isn't intended for another discussion on pilot size, but more a follow up question on whether layer clothing is modelled. We can see from one video that the parachute is a seperate model)

It would have been a tight fit but it was more likely down to individual pilots and how comfortable they were wearing it. It certainly wasn't impossible and there are plenty of photos of Spitfire pilots wearing Irvin jackets. I've read a few pilot accounts of how cold they were at 30,000ft even with the jacket on (unless I imagined them). Anyway, I don't think it's correct to say impossible, rather it was just difficult.

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by GBrutus

It would have been a tight fit but it was more likely down to individual pilots and how comfortable they were wearing it. It certainly wasn't impossible and there are plenty of photos of Spitfire pilots wearing Irvin jackets. I've read a few pilot accounts of how cold they were at 30,000ft even with the jacket on (unless I imagined them). Anyway, I don't think it's correct to say impossible, rather it was just difficult.

Aye, but in a combat situation it was a tough job. As you though, size can make a difference, but it is unlikely on most pilots. The colar of the Irvin is so large that it makes head movement really quite difficult. Having said that, I have seen a few pictures as you say of pilots wearing them in spits, but these may be staged...