Friday 2010-07-30 Dev. update and Discussions

[zakkandrachoff]

Originally Posted by luthier

Just to clarify, the Nazi thing wasn't my personal decision. It was made after consulting with legal, and made at a much higher level than myself.

The Russian law is extremely vague. It basically says "manufacture and distribution of any Nazi symbols in any form is punishable by such and such." If somebody wanted a pretext to go after 1C, the courts would interpret it whichever way was needed. And not only would 1C be slapped with a huge fine that would dwarf any potential profits from BoB, the actual actors, most likely myself and / and Oleg, could look at a prison sentence.

So can we please close this subject once and for all?

So…, how you going to do the skins of a Continuation War simulator in the future?

[Viking]

How about not at all!

Viking

Or at least not to your liking.
Read the writing on the wall.

[LukeFF]

Originally Posted by zakkandrachoff

So…, how you going to do the skins of a Continuation War simulator in the future?

Just like in IL2. Duh.

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by zakkandrachoff

So…, how you going to do the skins of a Continuation War simulator in the future?

Originally Posted by LukeFF

Just like in IL2. Duh.

Actually, if i'm not mistaken the hackencreuz is an inverted/mirror image of the other swastikas that are used in Finnish air force markings and various tribal insignia around the world. So, since it's not the exact same symbol there should be no problem

[csThor]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

Actually, if i'm not mistaken the hackencreuz is an inverted/mirror image of the other swastikas that are used in Finnish air force markings and various tribal insignia around the world. So, since it's not the exact same symbol there should be no problem

Actually there is. German law throws any kind of swastika into the same pot, NS swastika and finnish hakaristi are not kept separate. Ilya already said that the russian law is a "rubber law" that allows various ways of reading it. Which means the situation is as clear as stirred mud for 1C. I doubt they're going to risk a confrontation with the state so they'll play it safe and remove any swastika from the game.
I, too, don't suppose that 1C is going to change its marketing strategy so I guess there'll be one worldwide version (plus a russian one) and that's about it. And the smallest common denominator in that regard is german law which doesn't allow swastikas in a PC game.

[WTE_Galway]

Its only really the tail aircraft symbols that cause an issue.

The ground unit insignia such as the Afrika Korps one with the palm tree and hakenkreuz are too small to really be noticeable in a game.

Air Identification flags on tanks came later in the war. Also whilst many units did just use the NSDAP Flag or sometimes the Third Reich Battle Ensign the official Balkenkreuz Air Identification Flag shown below was also common and its historically accurate to use that on ground vehicles.




The Balkenkreuz Air Identification Flag was never flown as a flag but is commonly used in this role as a substitute for the NSDAP Flag by WWII recreation groups.

[esmiol]

if i remember it was the same problem in il2 no? swastika was not able to be show on the plane because of the german law.

but it is not something to debate.... because people who want swastika for historical reality on plane will just have to do a skin.

i suggest we stop speaking about that in this thread... we are clearly out of topic here

[proton45]

Originally Posted by esmiol

if i remember it was the same problem in il2 no? swastika was not able to be show on the plane because of the german law.

but it is not something to debate.... because people who want swastika for historical reality on plane will just have to do a skin.

i suggest we stop speaking about that in this thread... we are clearly out of topic here

Yea...you are right, its not a new issue.

But its still, waaaay closer to being on-topic then some of the posts here.

[I/ZG52_Gaga]

Originally Posted by zakkandrachoff

So…, how you going to do the skins of a Continuation War simulator in the future?

This is how we do it :