Friday 2010-04-02 Video and Discussion Thread

[AdMan]

If IL-2 looked anything close to this I'd still be playing IL-2

It's starting to look like a game, like the title screen artwork too, hopefully that look will carry on to the UI

[Richie]

The only thing I don't like about this movie is that 109 has to be dirtied up. It looks like it's just out of a Dinky Toy box. Other than that everything looks great. I'm sure the skinners will take care of the 109

[major_setback]

Originally Posted by Richie

The only thing I don't like about this movie is that 109 has to be dirtied up. It looks like it's just out of a Dinky Toy box. Other than that everything looks great. I'm sure the skinners will take care of the 109

I think it is not just lack of dirt that gives that impression.

The shine on the plane is very even. In real life the paint varies in shininess slightly, and there are small irregularities in the smoothness of the wing metal. Not that there is anything wrong with shine, it is seen a lot on old photos from the period, but it doesn't usually look that even, and it wouldn't show on panel lines etc. that are indented.

We have yet to see a WiP aircraft with part-shiny skin where panel lines and hatch edges don't shine, or where these edges deflect the light in some way. It would be nice if this was possible..but not essential of course.

I am hoping that the shine will be either linked to a separate bump map, or that it can be varied in some way.
I think there will be an editable shine bump map layer for the skins (just guessing though), though it might be disabled in the initial release if they use too many resources.


Oleg? Please comment!


As long as the shine is kept to a minimum it will look good anyway, and especially so if the skins are 'dirty'.

And as far as skins go: I'm certain there will be many user made ones available within the first couple of months of release, and I'm also sure that people will do a nice job of making used and dirty looking skins.

Uneven shine:



And here:





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[Zorin]

major, that is controlled via a specular map and I really do hope they will be available as part of the skinning abilities in SoW.

[major_setback]

Originally Posted by major_setback

I think it is not just lack of dirt that gives that impression.

The shine on the plane is very even. In real life the paint varies in shininess slightly, and there are small irregularities in the smoothness of the wing metal. Not that there is anything wrong with shine, it is seen a lot on old photos from the period, but it doesn't usually look that even, and it wouldn't show on panel lines etc. that are indented.

We have yet to see a WiP aircraft with part-shiny skin where panel lines and hatch edges don't shine, or where these edges deflect the light in some way. It would be nice if this was possible..but not essential of course.

I am hoping that the shine will be either linked to a separate bump map, or that it can be varied in some way.
I think there will be an editable shine bump map layer for the skins (just guessing though), though it might be disabled in the initial release if they use too many resources.


Oleg? Please comment!


As long as the shine is kept to a minimum it will look good anyway, and especially so if the skins are 'dirty'.

And as far as skins go: I'm certain there will be many user made ones available within the first couple of months of release, and I'm also sure that people will do a nice job of making used and dirty looking skins.





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Edit: This earlier WiP looks a lot better, panels/hatches seem to change the way light reflects. I would like to know exactly what we are seeing here, if it some sort of map or not that is changing the reflections/shine. Oleg?





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Originally Posted by Zorin

major, that is controlled via a specular map and I really do hope they will be available as part of the skinning abilities in SoW.

Thanks for the information!

[Tempest123]

Excellent, some aspects look photorealistic, glad to see a video!

[Richie]

In one shot you can see in shadow the canopy framing on the engine cowling of the Do-17. Now that's got to be cool.

[imaca]

Originally Posted by major_setback

I think it is not just lack of dirt that gives that impression.

The shine on the plane is very even. In real life the paint varies in shininess slightly, and there are small irregularities in the smoothness of the wing metal.
We have yet to see a WiP aircraft with part-shiny skin where panel lines and hatch edges don't shine, or where these edges deflect the light in some way. It would be nice if this was possible..but not essential of course.


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you mean like this:

[K-Style]

The Dornier looks fantastic. I'm happy with everything I see in this video (apart from [not final] tracers of course). The planes look far better than WOP and without those crappy filters. The thing I do like about WOP is the canopy scratch marks etc and of course the terrain. I know this Sim will feel much better than WOP too and have a flyby camera option in the initial release.

[Crunchieone]

The screenshot above,shows bump,spec and bloom,add that to the video shown and you've got another masterpiece,nuff said.