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Old 03-05-2010, 09:01 AM
Flanker35M Flanker35M is offline
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I have said many times that IL-2 is the ONLY game I have issues with running an ATI card. Others, like WoP run flawlessly and very well without a glitch. Even Silent Hunter 5 is a smooth ride ATI has managed to squeeze out good performance without excessive power consumption. If I can run 2 x 5870 with consumption of one Fermi roughly there is a huge difference how much I have to shell out on my system. A really good PSU is NOT cheap and add to that the hefty price tag and you got a lot of invested money for how much perfromance increase? That is to be seen yet.

But as said, ATI works on issue and it will help IL-2 for sure
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Old 03-05-2010, 09:55 AM
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[Render_OpenGL]
TexQual=3
TexMipFilter=3
TexCompress=0
TexFlags.UseDither=0
TexFlags.UseAlpha=0
TexFlags.UseIndex=0
TexFlags.PolygonStipple=1
TexFlags.UseClampedSprites=0
TexFlags.DrawLandByTriangles=1
TexFlags.UseVertexArrays=1
TexFlags.DisableAPIExtensions=0
TexFlags.ARBMultitextureExt=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineExt=1
TexFlags.SecondaryColorExt=1
TexFlags.VertexArrayExt=1
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TexFlags.TexAnisotropicExt=1
TexFlags.TexCompressARBExt=1

TexFlags.TexEnvCombine4NV=0
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineDot3=1
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HardwareShaders=1

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VideoSetupId=17
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PolygonOffsetFactor=-0.15
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Old 03-05-2010, 10:15 AM
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How about crashing? I've tried all Catalysts builds since Win 7 Beta came out, but my 2x4850 crashes with all of them after 9.5, except if I put 9.5 atioglxx.dll into the Il2 1946 folder. My rig is fairly dated (C2D 6850, 4GB RAM, 2x4850 in xFire, Windows 7 x64). In my view ATi has really dropped the ball on this one, the only flight sim that has no problems with ATi cards now is X-Plane, all the others that I play (Il2, FSX, WoP, LOMAC: FC, ROF, DCS: BS) are crashing, or have artifacts, or are running incredibly slow... and this has been going on for longer than a year now. Building a new rig just for flight sims may be an option... although I don't like that idea frankly, I already have a huge pile of electronics at home.
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Old 03-05-2010, 12:39 PM
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how many watts is ur PSU... I have a 750w and I'm using a 1x5850 windows 7 x64 i got 4GB of ram... and a E6550 overclocked to 3.4GHz.. no games crash... i play Aion, CoDMW2, GRID, Bioshock 2, GTA4, Dirt 2, IL2 of coarse, DCS:BS... and other games when i get bored... IL2 is the only game i used to have problems with...

I used to have a cheap sparkle 650w and my computer crashed left and right... at first i thought it was my motherboard so i bought a new one... but it still did it... so i bought new ram... still did it... shoulda realized it was cause my comp just wasn't getting enough juice so i went for a more expensive PSU and got a name brand coolmaster 4-rail 750w sustained PSU with >80% efficiency and my computer ran 10x faster and never crashed

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Old 03-05-2010, 12:55 PM
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If you are really using 5850,your conf.in should look like this:

[Render_OpenGL]
TexQual=3
TexMipFilter=3
TexCompress=0
TexFlags.UseDither=1>>>>> can be 0-heavier on the rig when looking far
TexFlags.UseAlpha=0
TexFlags.UseIndex=0
TexFlags.PolygonStipple=0
TexFlags.UseClampedSprites=0
TexFlags.DrawLandByTriangles=0
TexFlags.UseVertexArrays=0
TexFlags.DisableAPIExtensions=0
TexFlags.ARBMultitextureExt=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineExt=1
TexFlags.SecondaryColorExt=1
TexFlags.VertexArrayExt=0
TexFlags.ClipHintExt=1
TexFlags.UsePaletteExt=0
TexFlags.TexAnisotropicExt=1
TexFlags.TexCompressARBExt=1

TexFlags.TexEnvCombine4NV=0
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineDot3=1
TexFlags.DepthClampNV=0
TexFlags.SeparateSpecular=1
TexFlags.TextureShaderNV=0

HardwareShaders=1

Shadows=2
Specular=2
SpecularLight=2
DiffuseLight=2
DynamicalLights=1
MeshDetail=2
VisibilityDistance=3

Sky=2
Forest=3
LandShading=3
LandDetails=2

LandGeom=3
TexLarge=1
TexLandQual=3
TexLandLarge=1

VideoSetupId=17
Water=2
Effects=1
ForceShaders1x=0

PolygonOffsetFactor=-0.0625
PolygonOffsetUnits=-3.0

Your current, is a mix for ATI+nVIDIA together

gprr
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Old 03-05-2010, 01:30 PM
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Thanks for posting that, gprr. What is PolygonOffsetFactor and PolygonOffsetUnits? I don't have those in my conf.ini...

Would that setup work on a 5870 as well BTW?
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Old 03-05-2010, 05:56 PM
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Old 03-06-2010, 12:17 AM
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AKA_Tenn

If you are really using 5850,your conf.in should look like this:

[Render_OpenGL]
TexQual=3
TexMipFilter=3
TexCompress=0
TexFlags.UseDither=1>>>>> can be 0-heavier on the rig when looking far
TexFlags.UseAlpha=0
TexFlags.UseIndex=0
TexFlags.PolygonStipple=0
TexFlags.UseClampedSprites=0
TexFlags.DrawLandByTriangles=0
TexFlags.UseVertexArrays=0
TexFlags.DisableAPIExtensions=0
TexFlags.ARBMultitextureExt=1
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineExt=1
TexFlags.SecondaryColorExt=1
TexFlags.VertexArrayExt=0
TexFlags.ClipHintExt=1
TexFlags.UsePaletteExt=0
TexFlags.TexAnisotropicExt=1
TexFlags.TexCompressARBExt=1

TexFlags.TexEnvCombine4NV=0
TexFlags.TexEnvCombineDot3=1
TexFlags.DepthClampNV=0
TexFlags.SeparateSpecular=1
TexFlags.TextureShaderNV=0

HardwareShaders=1

Shadows=2
Specular=2
SpecularLight=2
DiffuseLight=2
DynamicalLights=1
MeshDetail=2
VisibilityDistance=3

Sky=2
Forest=3
LandShading=3
LandDetails=2

LandGeom=3
TexLarge=1
TexLandQual=3
TexLandLarge=1

VideoSetupId=17
Water=2
Effects=1
ForceShaders1x=0

PolygonOffsetFactor=-0.0625
PolygonOffsetUnits=-3.0

Your current, is a mix for ATI+nVIDIA together

gprr
do you even know what dither is?!? all it means its putting a red pixel next to a yellow pixel to make orange...


if u turn dither off it just puts an orange pixel... and im using an HD5850 with 12xAA and 16x AF and solid
90FPS with my current settings also some nvidia settings also work with ATI cards... i turned on and off all the settings... some do work...

and for u nvidia fanboys a HD5850 is anywhere between 9 and 15 percent faster (depending on the game) than a Nvidia 280GTX

Last edited by AKA_Tenn; 03-06-2010 at 12:23 AM.
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Old 03-06-2010, 04:50 AM
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Go to ubi forums and search for dither effects/problems like one here:
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...582#6681074582

2nd do what you want but it is advised chill out.

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Old 03-05-2010, 01:49 PM
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How about crashing? I've tried all Catalysts builds since Win 7 Beta came out, but my 2x4850 crashes with all of them after 9.5, except if I put 9.5 atioglxx.dll into the Il2 1946 folder. My rig is fairly dated (C2D 6850, 4GB RAM, 2x4850 in xFire, Windows 7 x64). In my view ATi has really dropped the ball on this one, the only flight sim that has no problems with ATi cards now is X-Plane, all the others that I play (Il2, FSX, WoP, LOMAC: FC, ROF, DCS: BS) are crashing, or have artifacts, or are running incredibly slow... and this has been going on for longer than a year now. Building a new rig just for flight sims may be an option... although I don't like that idea frankly, I already have a huge pile of electronics at home.
Perhaps some one here will convince you otherwise ( like the Iraq war minister ) in denial of any problems.

****** ******

ATI are not the choice of the young gamers out there at the moment so its not just an IL2 problem with ATI, I supply and build PC's and the ATI returns are getting serious now, I can't RMA an ATI card without a fault, what do I tell the manufacturer ? "Sorry cards being returned because the drivers are not good". They don't accept RMA under these circumstances.

I'm not saying Nvidia are any worse or better but for IL2 and other flight sims they are at the moment the only choice unless you are an ATI fanboi and wont consider a move to the darkside

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