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[SaQSoN]

Originally Posted by Eldur

What's often?

Often enough for the Soviet command to issue a recommendation to never build an attack pattern on a tank column along this column, which would give tanks more time to aim at attacker.

Originally Posted by Eldur

And are there any accounts on successful use of this?

The most peculiar account of a Sturmovik pilot, downed by a tank, I found in Drabkin's book "I fought in Sturmovik". The guy was attacking German tank column going along it and from behind. When he started to turn his plane for a second approach, banking it to almost 90 degree right in front of the column, his plane was hit in a fuselage by 88mm AP shell right between him and his gunner. The shell passed through canopy, main fuel tank, blowing out all fuel and exited through the bottom of the plane. Fortunately for the guy, no fire was started and no controls were damaged.
Having only about 3 minutes worth of fuel, he managed to crash land his plane close to friendly troops and returned with his gunner to the airfield on foot. The plane was also salvaged few days later, since Germans were retreating from this area.

And there were few more accounts where pilots claimed, they saw tanks shooting at them, when they were flying low, attacking tank/vehicle columns on march.

PS Obviously, IRL hardly a tank, engaged in a ground battle would try to attack a plane, flying above. This only happened, when tanks didn't have any other target, i.e. on march, mostly. In the game the AI for ground units is simplified to save processing resources for a more important tasks. So they just choose a nearest enemy target, disregarding it's value, or danger level. That is why, they will shoot at you, instead of the enemy tanks, when you are flying too close to them. But that's a game, after all.

[Lucas_From_Hell]

Direct hit by 88mm round and still flying ?!

Well, Il-2 vs. Panzer is just a regular tank battle then

[SaQSoN]

Originally Posted by Lucas_From_Hell

Direct hit by 88mm round and still flying ?!

As I wrote, fortunately for them, it was AP shell, it just went through the plane not even noticing it. If the tank gun was loaded with the HE ammo, they'd be blown to pieces.

[4./JG53_Task]

I remember in WWIIOL I shot down a low flying bomber in a Panzer II I had to react very quickly, rotating the turret correctly and keeping a steady stream of 20mm shells on him and nailed the sucker right in the wing root.

[Sita]

Need help and information!!!

http://forum.aviaskins.com/showpost....&postcount=206

any information about cockpit Il4 or DB3...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFUoDp9di5Y

[Eldur]

Originally Posted by SaQSoN

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PS Obviously, IRL hardly a tank, engaged in a ground battle would try to attack a plane, flying above. This only happened, when tanks didn't have any other target, i.e. on march, mostly. In the game the AI for ground units is simplified to save processing resources for a more important tasks. So they just choose a nearest enemy target, disregarding it's value, or danger level. That is why, they will shoot at you, instead of the enemy tanks, when you are flying too close to them. But that's a game, after all.

Ah, thanks for the info. Could this be changed maybe in future?

Originally Posted by SaQSoN

As I wrote, fortunately for them, it was AP shell, it just went through the plane not even noticing it. If the tank gun was loaded with the HE ammo, they'd be blown to pieces.

I don't remember such happenings in Il-2... AFAIR all tank gun hits in Il-2 are explosive on planes.

[SaQSoN]

Originally Posted by Eldur

Ah, thanks for the info. Could this be changed maybe in future?

I don't know.

Originally Posted by Eldur

I don't remember such happenings in Il-2... AFAIR all tank gun hits in Il-2 are explosive on planes.

In the game all ground unit guns from 20mm and larger have HE ammunition. The DM and physics modeling for ground units is also very simplified, as their main purpose is to serve as targets and/or entourage for a players flying their planes. And for this role such simplified modeling works fairly well.

[RPS69]

In Otto Carius Book, he tales of his gunner getting annoyed with an attacking il-2, and opening fire with the main gun on it scoring a hit, and downing it.

He says that he never heard of nobody else doing this nowhere in the war, and that it was an extremely lucky shot. Keep in mind that Otto Carius gunner was an extremely good marksman at that period.

On the other hand, with burst firing canons like the kwk20, an uncareful pilot could have a very bad time. And if they happen to be succesfull it is quite difficult that someone could just know what really downed the aircraft.

Still the big problem here is that moving ground units have unlimited ammo, so they fire allways and forever. That would be a great change on this subject.

[Tempest123]

Can the tail fillet be removed on the P-51D-5? it shouldn't have one.