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Old 12-02-2009, 07:06 PM
DGDobrev DGDobrev is offline
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Dragons are nice, but the towers are resistant to fire damage. This is why I didn't recommend them. On normal, it won't be much of a problem, but on imposiible, it is, because the towers have 12-15k points.

As for believing, every screen you need is in these threads:
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=11194
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...1&postcount=67

as well as a save game to show everything is clean It is all about knowing the game mechanics, the boss behaviour and knowing how to use it to your advantage.
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Old 12-03-2009, 03:46 PM
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I finally found out what I was doing wrong - I forgot to use wanderers magic scrolls (doh). Im so dumb, with scrolls - its sooo easy to beat lizard (not without loss like someone , but pretty easy)
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Old 12-06-2009, 05:53 PM
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Dragons are nice, but the towers are resistant to fire damage. This is why I didn't recommend them. On normal, it won't be much of a problem, but on imposiible, it is, because the towers have 12-15k points.

As for believing, every screen you need is in these threads:
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=11194
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...1&postcount=67

as well as a save game to show everything is clean It is all about knowing the game mechanics, the boss behaviour and knowing how to use it to your advantage.

I cant kill both of em on normal mode, i see it just impossible.

I have paladins, knights, horsemen, hyeterants and guardsmen. The maximum damage i can deal both lizard and zigaldis is about half. Of course im a mage, but wtf while they have about 80000 hp and i cant barely reach 500 guardsmen (and they are all dead after 4 turns, for example and 8 paladins on every turn so..) with the poor leadership the games gives u. I cant believe u killed em without loses on impossible even with screens (well at level 57 must be more easier). Even with physical def improved on tanks, resurrect and so on, u lose about 50 units on every round, so i really cant see a way to kill em. Not only that, they summon high level creatures and towers that dont let me to preserve the tanks or the other units, using lighitng bolts all the time. I never imagined this game was so unbalanced omg..

and by the way i wasted all the wanderer scrolls trying to kill em... frustrating. maybe i dont have enough leadership (i have only 25000) but i just cleared all the island and i dont have enemies left -.-, im only level 53 but i cant raise it more. So, with a maximum of 112 paladins, and 500 guardsmen, and 138 knights, for example i see impossible to kill lizard and zigaldis.

As i noticed on KB The Legend too, this games can only be finished doing the things ONLY on 1 way, the game turns from easy to impossible simply doing the things a bit different making the game totally unplayble. I am a bit dissapointed and maybe this is the last king's bounty game i play. HOMM series were much much better game tittles.

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Old 12-06-2009, 06:04 PM
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LOL, for what he would modify screens lol?? Many ppl kill them no losses on impossible and its just true .... Don balme anyway and excuse for cheating just bacause you can play this game ...

Zilgadis?? you cant kill him OMG. This means you are screwing it ...
hes not stronger than any usual stacks ... with mage ??
I had 23K LD mage and i killed him with not a single problem .. with Spellls ....... ktahu is different story ... but paladins are enough ... just use stoneskin !!! and phantom padins if needed to ress..

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Old 12-06-2009, 06:16 PM
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LOL, for what he would modify screens lol?? Many ppl kill them no losses on impossible and its just true ....

Zilgadis?? you cant kill him OMG. This means you are screwing it ...
hes not stronger than any usual stacks ... with mage ??
I had 23K LD mage and i killed him with not a single problem .. with Spellls ....... ktahu is different story ... but paladins are enough ... just use stoneskin !!! and phantom padins if needed to ress..
23000 leadership and u killed him lo.. without a single problem... tell me how and i will beleive u. I just get tired of using stone skin, target, phantom, useless. Nothing seem to be effective. Yea, instead of losing 5 paladins, i lose 4. Good .. lol. And of course i have all the spells maximized and on their higher levels. And without loses?? come on 80000 hp and u kill him without no loses. Nah..the only way to do that is killing em on 2 rounds before em start to spawn. I cant kill lizard with 18 trex, 300 gorguls and 200 hyeterants spawned (for example, sometimes they spawn more troops than that..). Zigaldis, i can only damage him about 4000 hp for round. He has 70000 (as i remember). So, every round he attacks or he spawn , i lose about 8-10 % of my troops. And i need for about 10 turns for killim him lol. So, true is that i only have 40 intellect, but even if have 50 or something, i dont see a way. Well, congratulations everyone that fake killed em, today was my last day playing AP xD. I will change to a better game.

Any video of showing that they can be killed?

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Old 12-06-2009, 06:30 PM
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I do not have any software for capturing movies and aint gonna get one.

Zilgadis is just easy ... offensive speels will take him down with no problem and i got easy no loss..

Ktahu i had loses but wining was not hard ... i am not gona believe that u lose 4 instead of 5 .. since ktahu was hiting me for like 15 without stoneskin
And it cant be done n many ways not just one .. there are many setups i did it with paladin knight horseman royal grphing and demonologists ... ktahu has a weak spot on his unarmored arm and he cant atack unit being there so use that spot for atacking him .. i used horseman since he is fast but could be paladin and teleport him when ktahu moves. I was stonesking gryphons and demonologists since they have low phiscal defense .. paladin and knght dont need it at all. I atakced the ktahu with angelic guards demonolgists summons and horseman rest was killing hes summons thats all ....
there are many other ways ... the most overpowered ktahu/baal strategy for no loss is using black knights .. they rise their damge and its going insane ... with warior i could hit ktahu for 60K at the end and evlin spell for resing them .. but with mage ... numbers wil be way lower of course so it wil take a little more time but its stil doable, just be sure to have items like black helmet or staff of acolyte necormancer to rise their numbers greatly

those are 2 of many many other setups working here ..

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Old 12-06-2009, 08:08 PM
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@N3MES1S

I can sympathisize with your feelings of frustration, but in these games you will sometimes have to adapt your favourite strategies or try something new completely. In the end, that's part of the charm.

You say you're a mage, but you mention only your troops, not the kind of spells you have. Have you tried nuking him with spells like Elwin suggested?
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Old 12-06-2009, 08:35 PM
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Nuking bosses with spells oonly works on normal. On hard and impossible you run out of mana before you even manage to get the boss' helath down to 50%.

I still wonder how did N3MES1S fail to beat them up when he had stone skin all the time. As a mage, he can easily get 2 units close to the boss, stone skin them and hack. That alone is enough as a mage to beat the boss on impossible (both with and without losses).
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Old 12-06-2009, 08:55 PM
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The problem is not the setup. The problem is that the 2 bosses are too strong. Doesnt matter if u use attacks spells cuz u can only damage him for about 3000-6000 per round. U lose about 10000 hp per round, so at round 3 it is virtually impossible to kill em. I need about double unit numbers to have a chance on killing em. And that, its impossible. I had a helmet that gives +20 defense and critic for paladins, a shield that gives me +20 light powers strenght, have the highter magic talent at maximum, and all the magic talents at rank 3. I can only use 1 stone skin, resurrect per round, so no, i dont believe its possible. I also tried black knights, and nothing changed , they died like fairys lol, like the paladins. So, i cant understand y people say they use paladins and kill the bosses without any lose, while i virtually get all my paladins dead. So , sorry for my ignorance, but i dont see any way to kill em. Maybe my game is bugged LOL. Well, this is my last post and this is my last game that i buy from katauri. Good luck everyone.
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Old 12-06-2009, 09:01 PM
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LOL. Man if there are hundred of pople here showing beating the game means its posssible? and so what ?? they all phoytoshopped the screenshot to fool everyone ?? nonsense
Bosses DO NOT do 10k damge per ruond ... for paladin its just 2k !! and for normal units its 5-6k max ... 6x damage per round?? your spell power is kinda not good if so :p you can cast 2 seplls i cast lvl2 fire rain and then lvl 3 fire raind it does around 10k total ...

I took zilgadis on normal in 8 rounds with no loss .. resing and such .. not only nuking ..

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