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Old 11-19-2009, 09:56 PM
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I see.

Thank you,David.
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Old 11-19-2009, 11:45 PM
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I believe Grunch means that at the moment, it is possible to set the Flaps to be controlled by a slider or analogue switch, like the throttle. This means you can set the flaps to be at any position from fully extended to fully retracted. On planes that don't have combat settings for their flaps like the Spitfire and Hurricane, this allows you to put the flaps down only part way, where they act like the combat setting for flaps, and this gives players using this technique an advantage these planes would not have historically.
Yes, that's exactly it, thanks David. Sorry, I typed that in a hurry.
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Old 11-24-2009, 03:51 PM
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Because it's unrealistic to be able to use flaps in anything other than the up or down position in those aircraft.
Sorry have been away a few days. No dont belive its unrealistic. I think the pilot was able to do some ajust themself, not putting the flaps all down or up. Looking at old movie the are down, but not in landingpossions. So I belive the settings are all correct. You are just not able to do it, if you dont have the right controls. Buy them and you are allright.
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Old 11-24-2009, 04:23 PM
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regarding flaps I think (don't have my books at hand right now) that for planes like Hurricane and Spit it's only possible IRL to use Up or Down and a limited number of times since they were operated by pneumatics via the lever in the left top side of cockpit panel.

Other plane I can't remember right now.

Thus I don't have my flaps on a slider but on a button
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Old 11-24-2009, 10:41 PM
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Default Ju-88 bug: pilot killed when crash landing

I think there is an old bug in the Ju-88. When landing, if you do it too fast or your vertical downspeed is too big and you crash on the ground, main undercarriage breaks (normal), cockpit hits the ground (normal) and pilot gets inmediatly "Pilot Killed" (not normal !) . You can see from an external view that the plane is intact, excepting the broken undercarriage, but pilot is dead.

Is it a bug, ? or is it supposed to be due to the glass-cage configuration of the Ju-88's cockpit? In WWII many wounded planes belly-landed in emergency, crashing their undercarriage, in a big dust cloud, but the crew was able to survive, if they could avoid the airplane caught fire in the event.

Of course if the bombardier were still in his nacelle, below the cockpit, it would be smashed, in case of this crash-landing, but, I think, in real life he would leave this position before ! , like belly-gunners in B-24 or B-17 would do. But, here in IL-2, it is the poor pilot who always dies !

IL-2 has got now a big chance of solving this and other old bugs, thanks to your efforts. Many thanks to all Team, in advance.
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Old 11-25-2009, 12:43 AM
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Sorry have been away a few days. No dont belive its unrealistic. I think the pilot was able to do some ajust themself, not putting the flaps all down or up. Looking at old movie the are down, but not in landingpossions. So I belive the settings are all correct. You are just not able to do it, if you dont have the right controls. Buy them and you are allright.
Nope, sorry. The Spit only had two-position flaps, with setting of 0 and about 90 degrees. Why do you think the lever in the cockpit isn't more precise? It's only got two positions, down and up. They had to wedge blocks of wood in the Seafire flaps to get a ten or fifteen degree position for carrier takeoffs. I'm quite aware that it's possible to vary the flap position on an axis in the game, I've got an X45 with two rotaries on it so I could quite easily bind flaps to one of them, but I don't want to because I think it's unrealistic.

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Old 11-26-2009, 07:34 AM
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They had to wedge blocks of wood in the Seafire flaps to get a ten or fifteen degree position for carrier takeoffs.
IIRC it was 8 degrees, but could indeed have been 10 or 15



it was not for Seafires, it was for Spitfires that were being flown off aircraft carriers to reinforce malta

they needed the flaps to cope with the take offs carrying the 90 gallon slipper tanks...that much tankage was required so the carrier and support vessels would not get too close to the danger around Malta
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Old 11-19-2009, 04:49 PM
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Could you guys make it so that it's impossible to use smaller increments of flaps with them set on an axis in aircraft with two-position flaps like the Spitfire and Hurricane?
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also, would it be possible to allow key mapping to different keys, instead of a single "toggle" key?

eg: "airbrakes" can only be mapped to one key open/close currently, would be nice to have option to map separate keys, one for open, one for close
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Old 11-19-2009, 10:42 PM
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So does DT have any questions regarding the information posted below or the Ki-61 or even Ki-43 that I can help answer?

K2
We are still waiting confirmation from Oleg that we can change old planes. When we get his approval we will have some questions, that's for sure. As your case is well presented it will certainly be one of the first things that we will try to improve.

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with all respect FC, did you czech the 38J code for this?

i will go and double check today, as perhaps this was fixed in a patch or two ago

but certainly, at the time, 1C did not have the 50s unsync'd for 38J default loadout, ever since that time i have been taking drop tanks for 38J to get unsync'd 50s
Yes,I checked the code, can't find anything different in P38J loadouts. Same MG is used.
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