Suggesting to devs

[condorz38]

Fix the servers; disconnecting ruins the whole game

[kozzm0]

hey maybe this is in the patch but it's clear now that there are several planes that can sustain a 10-second turn in simulation, which is about twice as good as any of them could really do... I'm not suggesting you go back and redo the whole engine, but a lot of it could be fixed if there were an online option to disable WEP in games.

One of the biggest reasons for the crazy turns that lose no energy is WEP. Online matches without WEP would be WAAAY more realistic.

[haitch40]

Originally Posted by kozzm0

hey maybe this is in the patch but it's clear now that there are several planes that can sustain a 10-second turn in simulation, which is about twice as good as any of them could really do... I'm not suggesting you go back and redo the whole engine, but a lot of it could be fixed if there were an online option to disable WEP in games.

One of the biggest reasons for the crazy turns that lose no energy is WEP. Online matches without WEP would be WAAAY more realistic.

wep should be alowed just it wrecks your engine (which is what hapens as far as i know)

Originally Posted by kozzm0

One of the biggest reasons for the crazy turns that lose no energy is WEP. Online matches without WEP would be WAAAY more realistic.

I support this idea^^. Personally a mix between arcade and realistic would be the most fun. Have the controls like arcade but have the dangers of stalling, complex damage system, and bullet damage buffed.

[kozzm0]

WEP wrecks your engine - but only after using it for quite a while, longer than most dogfights last. Planes can go through at least 10 loops with WEP on full, where they ought to stall.

No-wep matches would involve a lot more maneuvering and dodging, instead of impossible flat-loop circle fights.

I don't mean ban wep, just make it an option for online, like fuel and ammo.

[Ancient Seraph]

Originally Posted by kozzm0

WEP wrecks your engine - but only after using it for quite a while, longer than most dogfights last. Planes can go through at least 10 loops with WEP on full, where they ought to stall.

No-wep matches would involve a lot more maneuvering and dodging, instead of impossible flat-loop circle fights.

I don't mean ban wep, just make it an option for online, like fuel and ammo.

I'm guessing the red-/black-outs will also decrease the amount of flat-loop circling, as you call it . However, WEP or not, those turns are still possible, they'd just be a bit slower.

[kozzm0]

Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph

I'm guessing the red-/black-outs will also decrease the amount of flat-loop circling, as you call it . However, WEP or not, those turns are still possible, they'd just be a bit slower.

Almost twice as slow, the yak-3's level sustained max is 19 seconds. Which would create more realistic ways to disengage.

I said flat loops but you're right, they do get pretty oblique without any danger of stalling at all. Kind of like a yo-yo contest. Without wep a plane turning its minimum radius wouldn't be able to do that.

<> I hate to beat a dead horse but the online score system just continues to get more and more mysterious. Yesterday I finished a round with 0 kills and "mission failed," but nobody else had any kills either. This was vs two I-16's, where I decided to demonstrate how useless that plane really was due to its low speed and inability to climb, I merely climbed and bnz-ed them the entire round. Since the I-16's crashed and I didn't, the game handed me the dogfight champion trophy even though it said I lost the round.

I've also noticed that I seem to drop in rank every time I decisively defeat a higher-ranked opponent, even with limited ammo and good accuracy. I'm starting to wonder whether there's any formula at all for the "level," or whether the devs just entertain themselves by watching people play and saying "that looked good, up 1 level" or "you only won 5-0, down one level."

So either deaths DO matter in dogfight, at least as tie-breakers, or it all depends on whether the devs thought the fight was any good.

[kozzm0]

Originally Posted by kozzm0

WEP wrecks your engine - but only after using it for quite a while, longer than most dogfights last. Planes can go through at least 10 loops with WEP on full, where they ought to stall.

No-wep matches would involve a lot more maneuvering and dodging, instead of impossible flat-loop circle fights.

I don't mean ban wep, just make it an option for online, like fuel and ammo.

It would still have been better to reduce the WEP to a realistic level, it just seems too powerful in climbs which plays hell on altitude advantage. But the blackouts have solved the dang 10-second sustained problem, more or less.
Now if a plane starts flying oblique loops at 280kph it's in trouble. Problem fixed.

But the scoring system isn't really fixed. Docking 1 point for a crash still gives a player with a damaged plane no incentive to keep it in the air, unless they're good enough to win 4 out of 5 times with a winged plane. Gun kills are always credited but only if there's enough damage. If you wing your opponent, then outmaneuver them till they stall and crash, or run into a tree, still no kill. It would be better if a crash death deducted 3 points.

Also is there any explanation anywhere of how the online rankings work? The stars are as mysterious as ever.

[InfiniteStates]

Originally Posted by kozzm0

Also is there any explanation anywhere of how the online rankings work? The stars are as mysterious as ever.

Silvernige came up with a great theory on the yuPlay forum that I keep meaning to test, but don't really look at the leaderboards. He basically suggested that when your stars hit a certain level (200 he said, but I suspect the value will vary across game modes) then your level goes up 1 and the stars reset...

[kozzm0]

Originally Posted by InfiniteStates

Silvernige came up with a great theory on the yuPlay forum that I keep meaning to test, but don't really look at the leaderboards. He basically suggested that when your stars hit a certain level (200 he said, but I suspect the value will vary across game modes) then your level goes up 1 and the stars reset...

yes, I see my stars on the board go up and down, but not any connection between that and the stars awarded at the end of matches.

The most annoying thing is winning a match 5-0, or with the patch 20-0, getting 20 stars, only to see that my level dropped. It's happened several times now.

This is a wild guess, but maybe you have to get more stars than the difference between your level and the opponent's highest level.