Friday 2009-10-23 Screenshots Update discussion thread

[furbs]

i hope they use the photos i was asked to take back in 2004(or 5 cant remember now)...i took about 60 pics of pre-war houses, pubs, farms and other stuff. cant wait to see if some of them made it into SOW

[drafting]

Beautiful work, Oleg and Luthier! The 110 screenshot is especially amazing... Very true to life. I think I can see the light at the end of the tunnel, too!

Since it's now possible to open canopies, etc (I may be wrong?), I wonder if it'd be possible too to have more complex 'bail out' sequences?

Bailing out is a pretty desperate and sometimes violent ordeal, and it'd be incredible if your view point could kind of 'leap' out of the cockpit and 'spin' away from the plane instead of just popping into a 3rd-person perspective of the pilot in his chute.

Also, up till now, you know that you're getting out if your plane's high enough and you hit the 'bail out' key, but in real life it might be impossible due to high speed, g's, or violent spinning... Maybe add a little fear into hitting 'ctrl-e'?

I remember a patch added to European Air War long ago that added 'realistic' bail outs, and it was a pretty scary ordeal. You definitely weren't assured of making it out alive if you weren't straight and level, and it made you wonder about bailing out long before you were missing a wing, tail, and engine and were fluttering to the ground.

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by drafting

Beautiful work, Oleg and Luthier! The 110 screenshot is especially amazing... Very true to life. I think I can see the light at the end of the tunnel, too!

Since it's now possible to open canopies, etc (I may be wrong?), I wonder if it'd be possible too to have more complex 'bail out' sequences?

Bailing out is a pretty desperate and sometimes violent ordeal, and it'd be incredible if your view point could kind of 'leap' out of the cockpit and 'spin' away from the plane instead of just popping into a 3rd-person perspective of the pilot in his chute.

Also, up till now, you know that you're getting out if your plane's high enough and you hit the 'bail out' key, but in real life it might be impossible due to high speed, g's, or violent spinning... Maybe add a little fear into hitting 'ctrl-e'?

I remember a patch added to European Air War long ago that added 'realistic' bail outs, and it was a pretty scary ordeal. You definitely weren't assured of making it out alive if you weren't straight and level, and it made you wonder about bailing out long before you were missing a wing, tail, and engine and were fluttering to the ground.

That would be cool. However, from the screens it is clear that we won't be able to see the pilots arms, legs, torso etc. It would be a bit odd to have the process in 1st person without seeing these features. I'm not sure though, it could work....

[zapatista]

hi Oleg,

thanks for your previous answer

Q: about dynamic campaign and aircraft available at airfields

1) will destroying enemy aircraft parked on the ground affect the aircraft the enemy pilots can "select" at that airfield ?
2) will fresh aircraft re-supply to front line airfields be modeled in the campaign timeline, eg
- every X time the factory production can produce X number aircraft type A,B,C and those become available at regular interval to be flown to airfields for us. if more enemy aircraft are destroyed then they can produce, this affects aircraft available at that specific airfield (forcing pilots of that team to use more rear located airfields, and hence need more flying time to the frontline which further weakens their team)
- if all 109's at an airfield are destroyed on the ground, the german pilots should not be able to select 109's at that airfield, and after X time some fresh factory 109's could be flown in to that airfield and become available
3) will new aircraft resupply to airfields be modeled by AI flying in these aircraft (which means the enemy would see those resupply flights to, and could intercept them)
4) if aircraft are damaged at an airfield, either because a pilot landed a damaged aircraft or some aircraft were damaged by an enemy attack, will those aircraft be "repaired" on the ground in XYZ time and gradually become available again ? (major damage to aircraft would mean dead aircraft, less damage could be gradually repaired)

thx for all your hard work on BoB, it is very exiting to see the continued development coming together at this stage

those type of factors really affect immersion in a sim, because the actions from each team have a direct effect on the opposing teams fighting ability

5) if some of those campaign features are not immediately available, is this part of your game engine that will be "open" for your fanbase to work on themselves so they can put time and effort into those aspects of the game to ?