Three questions on flat spins

[Roboslob]

Well recovery is possible, as demonstarted here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvbS-oHi9ro

But like you mentioned his CoG was clearly to the front as his nose is already point down slightly. What I experianced was much the same, but without the happy ending. (Or recovery the first time)

[Crispus222]

Originally Posted by Roboslob

Well recovery is possible, as demonstarted here:

But like you mentioned his CoG was clearly to the front as his nose is already point down slightly. What I experianced was much the same, but without the happy ending. (Or recovery the first time)

You know what he did... I can see how this would recover but it is still by pure luck... He cut the engine completely in hopes that without the power the nose would drop, which it did, and just in time to. Sadly, because the altitude which it finally recovered was so low, he could not execute a proper forced approach and the plane crashed. This was a lucky recovery! The problem with a completely flat spin is that there are no aerodynamic forces working on any control surfaces, making any control inputs useless... Good find though!

[Roboslob]

Originally Posted by Crispus222

Sadly, because the altitude which it finally recovered was so low, he could not execute a proper forced approach and the plane crashed.

Another big factor would be the intense disorientation he was experiancing. He stated (either in the info or comments) that he could not read his instruments and when he was "level and steady" the plane realy was rocking and at an angle.

[Crispus222]

Originally Posted by Roboslob

Another big factor would be the intense disorientation he was experiancing. He stated (either in the info or comments) that he could not read his instruments and when he was "level and steady" the plane realy was rocking and at an angle.

Yep, that's very true! Although instruments are not as important if you have outside visual. It's called VFR which is visual flight rules. This means your flying the plane with reference to outside and not the instruments (although you do check them from time to time). It would suck to get into spins or spiral dives on an IFR flight although you do learn to recognize them from the instruments. The big factor here which comes from what your saying is the human factors of being able to handle those forces and disorientation that your body is experiencing. But yes, very good point thank you!