SoW-BoB technical question

ALien_12 · #1 08-17-2009, 11:23 AM

What do you think guys, is it better to buy a good PC now or to wait until DX11 cards will go out?

KG26_Alpha · #2 08-17-2009, 12:38 PM

DX11 for a OGL sim ?

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=8264

Alien to be honest do you need a new system ?

It won't matter if you wait for SoW as hardware is changing so fast it will be out of date in under 6 months anyway.

The problem is you need to step on the ladder its just a matter of when and how much depreciation is involved, sometimes its best to buy around the 6 month old barrier to get the best deals, as new hardware is released the older stuffs way cheaper and possibly more stable as its had longer in the retail end of the market.

So you can blow 1000's or 100's, most of my punters want the "must have" stuff just because someone's posted a benchmark saying "my roof flew off it was soo fast in Crysis" etc etc etc

Personally I can build a system around the 6 month old area that will perform as fast as the latest must have syetems, its a matter of careful hardware selection and price, but the cheapest isnt always the best go for a recognized GPU manufacturer, some of the cheaper ones are cheap for a good reason.

nearmiss · #3 08-17-2009, 03:41 PM

I updated a year ago, with the best package I could afford.

ABIT Gamer motherboard, Intel E6600 processor x 4 gig low latency ram, 400 Gig HDD,8000 GTX 512 VC,750W PS, Case with 6 fans and it works extremely well.

I don't plan to upgrade for another year, at least I think not. LOL

The BOB SOW has been developed over the past few years with computers that are probably not as state of the art as my own.

I've often wondered about all the upgrading, in a situation like BOB SOW.

Not because I don't think it will be the best it can be, but because state of the art hardware has short life span.

You might post your system stats and get better answers.

Desode · #4 08-17-2009, 05:01 PM

I would say at the very least get a quad core of some type. The AMD's are at a really good price right now. I just ordered the AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition at 3.0 ghz for pretty cheap in a barebones kit. You can buy a heck of a computer for $500 right now if you put it together yourself.
Depending on which Graphics card company you like,, you can get a Nvidia Sli set up, or a Crossfire set up for ATI Radion cards.
Its kind of nice, because you can get some very good Nvidia or ATI integrated graphics right now and then down the road you can upgrade by adding a pci Express card and linking it together with the integrated card.

I have never liked integrated graphics in the past but this works really well, and I must say I like the fact of how this gives you more upgrade ability in the future.

HOWEVER,
If you got the money to burn then, get a Icore 7, Its the best there is right now, but when it comes to Bang for your buck AMD is where its at for me.
DESODE

ALien_12 · #5 08-17-2009, 05:50 PM

I'm pretty sure i have to update. My old PC is: Pentium 4 2.4 GHz (1 core), 1GB RAM, GeForce 4MX 440, and 80GB hard disc. It's an old combination. Isn't it?

zakkandrachoff · #6 08-17-2009, 05:59 PM

I have a inter core 2 quad 2.66ghz, a mother that can support 16GBRAM, 600W sentey, 4GBRAM, 1/2terabithe 32mb velocity, buth i have a gforce 9.500gt 512mb and this year i gonna change it for a GTX 260 896mb black edition and 2 more GBRAM.

This will be fine? whit the 9500GT the ARMA2 work just fine! buth when i will use a spitfire o a ME110 escort, a gonna puth 200 Heintels is the sky and i dont wanna any crash-machine o slow texture.

Thunderbolt56 · #7 08-17-2009, 06:21 PM

All good advice and since I'm not adept at implementing the use of crystal balls, I can only give my opinion. First, I'll too say...get a quad. The newest flight-sim on the market right now (Rise of Flight) was developed and optimized for quad-core processors and the average quads right now are substantially outperforming the average dual core rigs. That's not to say dual-core machines are old news, but more and more programs are being written with multithread capability and a quad is the way to go...period.

As far as graphics cards go, I'd get a nice mid-level GTX260 core 216 card and wait until Fall or even Spring to get a next-gen card. The 260 is an excellent card that runs most everything right now with very high (or max) settings just fine as long as the processor is up to the task. I'm not a fan of SLI or Crossfire and feel a really good single-GPU card is best for me, but that may change.

Sound cards? If I'm on a budget, I'd use onboard sound and be done with it. If not, I'd just get the latest version of whatever several manufacturers are peddling. I opted for the PCIE Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion, but most any will be slightly better than onboard sound and sometimes provide slightly improved framerates in CPU-intensive applications...like flight sims.

I built a Core i7 rig recently and I really like the triple channel RAM (not to mention the absolutely insane overhead the 920 has for overclocking) and can highly recommend them. The processors aren't too expensive and neither is the RAM, even if you get 6GB of low-latency, high-speed stuff. But the motherboard was a sticky point for me as I hated spending almost $300USD on one for this platform.

Future-proofing a computer is a cr@pshoot and you certainly don't need an i7 to get fast quad that runs like a screamer. Look into the Q9550's, LGA 775 mobo's that support it and get the lowest-latency 4GB kit of RAM you can afford and you should be fine for relatively little dough.

edit: Alien, that rig is ancient by today's standards and even a decent dual-core will make you feel like you just entered light speed compared to a single core P4 rig. I would still recommend leapfrogging the duals though and going with a quad.

#8 08-17-2009, 07:02 PM

I currently have:
2X GTX285 Cards running in SLI on a EVGA NForce 780i
8Gb Corsair Dominator Ram
Intel Q9550 Yorkfield Core Overclocked to 3.8Ghz (Liquid Cooled)
Coolermaster Comos case
1TB Samsung Sata2 Drive
2 X Western Digital Raptor Drives (150GB)
X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Sound card
27" Dell 2709W UltraSharp Widescreen LCD 1920x1200

Personally I am going to wait before I upgrade, SOW is going to be at least another year away and on past performance maybe 2. If you want to upgrade purely for SOW I would also wait to see what Oleg announces for the system spec's, we may be pleastantly surprised on how well SOW will run, given its time in development its fair to say that equipment used would not be currently 'state of the art'. If so by this time next year all current cards and CPU's will be a whole lot cheaper.

Feuerfalke · #9 08-17-2009, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALien_12

What do you think guys, is it better to buy a good PC now or to wait until DX11 cards will go out?

Actually it's best to wait until SOW is at least close to release, optimum requirements are announced, benchmarks with different cards and maybe a benchmark demo.

Feuerfalke · #10 08-17-2009, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

I currently have:
2X GTX285 Cards running in SLI on a EVGA NForce 780i
8Gb Corsair Dominator Ram
Intel Q9550 Yorkfield Core Overclocked to 3.8Ghz (Liquid Cooled)
Coolermaster Comos case
1TB Samsung Sata2 Drive
2 X Western Digital Raptor Drives (150GB)
X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Sound card
27" Dell 2709W UltraSharp Widescreen LCD 1920x1200

Personally I am going to wait before I upgrade, ...

Upgrade to what? An IBM "Roadrunner" ?