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02-06-2013, 04:32 PM
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soviet planes and 4.1x...
about lagg-3, so-called, "66 serie"...
here in table lagg-3 № 6011 and № 7166 ie it's 60 and 71 series... confirmation - Quote:
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next, control tests from Rodionov's Chronology... state testing of lagg-3 60 serie with identification of many defects (it's for what need these test, mainly, i repeat) - Quote:
further, if briefly, lagg-3 № 6311 (released in may 1943 with 2960 kg), 6542 (august/2992 kg, 5.4 min/5000 km, and this not so bad performance with many defects in description), 6631 (september/2986 kg), 7166 (februar/2983 kg), all with similar performances... well, i think, 2963 kg - start of production and performance similar with etalon, 2993-30xx kg - further, first problems and defects, 2970-2980 kg - main problems solved, so, average normal performance between etalon and plane with defects ie normal situation for all soviet aircrafts during production... another 6x serie (no defects, june'43, from HR again) - Quote:
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info from russian historian Stankov - Quote:
another good book about la/lagg with lot of tables with performances, we can see planes of 31 plant with weight around 2962.3-2993 kg and, mainly, normal weight around 2970-2975 kg... thx for SergeyZhuravlev, on english  , laggs 7033, 7043 and 7041...attached table from "TsAGI - samoletostroenye v SSSR 1917- 1945, part 2", with performances of some soviet planes including lagg-3 of 31 plant, which, i think, mainly based on tests what we can read in some sources... attached 2 pages of some books on english, with laggs 6019 and apparently 6066... well... relatively simple research in some open sources (ON ORIGINAL language, with docs, tables etc and for several findings thx to scalemodels.ru again) and we can see what now lagg-3 "66 serie" in fact have not correctly name, weight and performance... in compare for 4.11 - 542 kph at sl (545 max. for REAL lagg from early quality test, no any things like "gespachtelt und poliert", "special treated" etc etc etc), weight 3087.96 kg (extra 100-1xx kg), best turn time 20.19 (extra 1.5 sec), climb... don't know, but i think too low... and, apparently, in game wrong fuel load... about armament, i think, all correctly and i not found any serious confirmations about second UBS... and, in total, just my opinion what we need - apparently, 2 laggs of late series - first, for example "lagg-3 6x serie" with around 545 kph at sl/5.4 min at 5000 m/18 sec at 1000/296x kg, and second "7x serie" with 53x/5.6/19/299x or even 30xx, ie 2 different planes with max. level of differences of performances which based on real quality tests of real planes... it's in ideal and just sample... other way - only one average lagg-3 maybe of 66 serie with performance from attached table, just, i think need to correct weight (2970-2975 kg)... but personally i prefer first variant because it's historically and better for varied gameplay, but without any serious changes ie easy to do... and, just attached 2 not bad pics... 
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