4.12 and UP.3.rc4

[JG1992]

I have qeustion about 4.12.
Patch 4.10.1 was compatibile with up.3.rc4.
Now all servers many servers support 4.11.1 but not up.3.rc4
Will be 4.12 compatibile with up.3.rc4 ?
Thank you very much for your answer.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by JG1992

I have qeustion about 4.12.
Patch 4.10.1 was compatibile with up.3.rc4.
Now all servers many servers support 4.11.1 but not up.3.rc4
Will be 4.12 compatibile with up.3.rc4 ?
Thank you very much for your answer.

So basically the UP guys would have to recompile their mod packs on top of each new official release. I don't know much about what UP is doing but if UP3 RC4 was compatible with 4.10.1 that's where it ends. They would need new versions to be compatible with the new content in 4.11.1 and then with the new content in 4.12. It's not going to magically become compatible. They would have to release a new version...

[ElAurens]

The UP guys made a decision to go their own way as they thought they had a better idea.

Now they are left standing alone in the wilderness.


You make your choice and run with it.

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

If it was 3 or 4 years ago, I'd go with the new encryption idea, but nowadays, times have changed, I think. I don't know, what else is there regarding small mod groups (like those french I never heard of), but just taking the mainstream ones, I see, with UP slowly fading away, HSFX still keeping up very well on base of actual stock version, and then the stock game itself, kept alive by us. There is no more such big wars and flaming around and I feel, the situation is better than at any point in the last years, since modding started.

I don't see any reason (and the whole team doesn't as well) to do a new encryption. It would sepearate the community - nobody wants that - and after all, it would be broken soon anyway. Nothing worth the effort.

[Hans Burger]

OK, it is another point of view. I don't share it, but it is not so important, of course.
About french groups, as I know, there are active on 4.09 modding activities on several domains: new 3D projects, but also in reprogramming core class or dll.
I am probably not wrong, but I think that the SFS packer used by UP has been done by one guy of these groups.

[T}{OR]

Originally Posted by EJGr.Ost_Caspar

If it was 3 or 4 years ago, I'd go with the new encryption idea, but nowadays, times have changed, I think. I don't know, what else is there regarding small mod groups (like those french I never heard of), but just taking the mainstream ones, I see, with UP slowly fading away, HSFX still keeping up very well on base of actual stock version, and then the stock game itself, kept alive by us. There is no more such big wars and flaming around and I feel, the situation is better than at any point in the last years, since modding started.

I don't see any reason (and the whole team doesn't as well) to do a new encryption. It would sepearate the community - nobody wants that - and after all, it would be broken soon anyway. Nothing worth the effort.

Blocking all mods out wouldn't be a good idea, I agree. In particular the sound related ones. However, having something that can regulate what is allowed on the server (other than venerable CRT2), so that servers can either allow mods or lock everything non stock out - would be a tremendous help for online community IMO.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by T}{OR

Blocking all mods out wouldn't be a good idea, I agree. In particular the sound related ones. However, having something that can regulate what is allowed on the server (other than venerable CRT2), so that servers can either allow mods or lock everything non stock out - would be a tremendous help for online community IMO.

I agree .. I think at this point it would do more harm than good.

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

Originally Posted by T}{OR

Blocking all mods out wouldn't be a good idea, I agree. In particular the sound related ones. However, having something that can regulate what is allowed on the server (other than venerable CRT2), so that servers can either allow mods or lock everything non stock out - would be a tremendous help for online community IMO.

Eh... isn't that what CRT is for? It works at least for me. If I don't have the same version, I simply can't join.

BTW: 4.12 will support custom sounds, so that shouldn't be any problem anymore.

[RPS69]

You better assume that UP is dead. They are not posting anything, even if they are willing to keep it alive, they don't look to be doing anything on it, for a long time now.

Better switch to HSFX.

[CWMV]

Long time UP fan here but I think Zuti Mds made it to inflexible.
"Hey does this mod work?!"
"No, incompatible with MDS"
Very common exchange in the recent past.
DBW won't be dependant on UP anymore, so for offline its the way to go. 1.8 is being worked on as we speak.
Online HSFX, though its not my favorite.