we the spaniards have been conquered by usa as halloween shows

[raaaid]

in spain today we used to celebrate the day of all saints when you memory your deceased familiars



not anymore now its a kids party imposed by america and extreamly sponsored by the media

has anybody else lived that in his country?

well but seems the capitalist empire is falling isnt it here in spain half of the people my age and under is unemployed

[5./JG27.Farber]

Yep we used to have a thing called "father christmas":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbUVKXdu4lQ&feature=plcp

Its a((mostly)) American) cultural invasion. Especially in English speaking countires and countries where English speaking programs are broadcast. Or where programs are broadcast which are dubbed. Mostly by sheer number these programs are American and so slowley our cultures intertwine (i prefer erroded). Yesterday I heard someone call the pavement "a sidewalk"...

Other than the fact its lazy, less creative and mind numbing, its the reason I no longer watch television and I have not done so for 2 or 3 years. I dont even own one.

[raaaid]

but what caughts my attention is the media treatment of the issue, i have seen no media mentioning the spanish tradition even though most families kept visiting the cemeteries and leaving flowers, theyre all about halloween

while that happens and the germans do the same with us this is how the italian and spanish leaders are portraited in the press:

[BGs_Ricky]

Same here, Halloween has become very popular, especially with the youngest ones. As for me, I still can't seem to care about it...

So kiddies coming to my house asking for candies are quite disappointed, but I guess that next year I will have no choice as my kids (4 1/2 and 3 y.o.) are already asking me what is happening with all the people dressed up as monsters

[Fjordmonkey]

Originally Posted by raaaid

in spain today we used to celebrate the day of all saints when you memory your deceased familiars

I'd rather celebrate Day of all Saints and honor the memory of those that has passed than have snotty little brats (and adults, for that matter) on my door in idiotic costumes begging for candy. Here in Norway there hasn't been a tradition to celebrate All Hallows Eve at all until in recent years, and it's pretty much turned into the same rubbish bullshit as Valentine's Day: A capitalistic overhyped idiocy of epic proportions.

Then again, I absolutely abhor both Halloween and Valentine's Day in general. I find both utterly ridiculous.

[Trumper]

Originally Posted by Fjordmonkey

I'd rather celebrate Day of all Saints and honor the memory of those that has passed than have snotty little brats (and adults, for that matter) on my door in idiotic costumes begging for candy. Here in Norway there hasn't been a tradition to celebrate All Hallows Eve at all until in recent years, and it's pretty much turned into the same rubbish bullshit as Valentine's Day: A capitalistic overhyped idiocy of epic proportions.

Then again, I absolutely abhor both Halloween and Valentine's Day in general. I find both utterly ridiculous.

Well said.The problem is now there are generations of children and adults who have only ever known this to exist as it is now and therefore it has become "the normal".

[5./JG27.Farber]

post 5 and 6,

Agreed.

We should just go back to the wierd Pagan and Druid ones!

[major_setback]

Not only the Spaniards. They got the spaniels too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpvlnhyAHNw

[He111]

You might be surprised to know that here in OZ we never use to have Haloween .. too American but recently we've given in .. kids love it and what the hell, any excuse for a party.

As to Spains problem, and greece, i feel for you. The current economic system isn't working. We need far more cash in the world system, ALL countries need to keep printing money until inflation starts to bite then stop. Otherwise, like a engine that is starved of fuel, the world economic engine will just keep spluttering and stalling. Needs more fuel .. bigger the engine, the more fuel needed.

We'll that's my take anyway. which is quite strange because i'm a tea-party follower.

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[swiss]

Originally Posted by He111

kids love it and what the hell, any excuse for a party.

Bingo.
I would have loved having Halloween in Europe back in the days.