No Loss thoughts?

[Zechnophobe]

So, My first playthrough I'm just doing on Hard, without hugely worrying about No Loss. Just want to get a feel for how the game flows.

The tutorial fights will be easy, since you have the high level troops for it. But I'm pretty worried that you just won't be able to get off that first island without serious effort for no-loss. You don't get many spells, and most of your troop selection are medium health melee creatures. Slingers are very flimsy, and Berserkers can't really tank. Maybe if you limit yourself to soothsayers and Axe throwers?

Perhaps the Bear guy will sometimes sell polar bears?

[skycrow]

I like no loss,but i prefer minimizing loss .

Sometimes no-loss make me feel stressful and limit my troops types

[hotfix666]

Originally Posted by Zechnophobe

So, My first playthrough I'm just doing on Hard, without hugely worrying about No Loss. Just want to get a feel for how the game flows.

The tutorial fights will be easy, since you have the high level troops for it. But I'm pretty worried that you just won't be able to get off that first island without serious effort for no-loss. You don't get many spells, and most of your troop selection are medium health melee creatures. Slingers are very flimsy, and Berserkers can't really tank. Maybe if you limit yourself to soothsayers and Axe throwers?

Perhaps the Bear guy will sometimes sell polar bears?

no loss is not a part for me but I shall fix it on impossibel

Im very happy this game have achievements
You think you can get all on finish the game first time on impossibel and ofcourse fastest you can? Some people finish CW on 7 days and me on 12 and that ok for me. My goal is finish Warriors of the North so fast I can but not 20 days.

I play first island on "normal" and that was easy.
I gonna start the game now on impossibel and see if i can fix it. I play crossworld so much so im already little tierd on the Warriors of the North

Maybe get all achievements its impossibel with "impossibel and no loss" first time playing?

[hotfix666]

Originally Posted by Zechnophobe

So, My first playthrough I'm just doing on Hard, without hugely worrying about No Loss. Just want to get a feel for how the game flows.

The tutorial fights will be easy, since you have the high level troops for it. But I'm pretty worried that you just won't be able to get off that first island without serious effort for no-loss. You don't get many spells, and most of your troop selection are medium health melee creatures. Slingers are very flimsy, and Berserkers can't really tank. Maybe if you limit yourself to soothsayers and Axe throwers?

Perhaps the Bear guy will sometimes sell polar bears?

in this game you can not digg after wander scrolls so thats can be hard on impossibel?

[Loopy]

Started my first game on impossible as a mage. Ahriman is a ridiculous stone wall to a no loss game. Soothsayers just plain suck at resurrection, undead are immune to too many things that could make it easier, and your ranged abilities are just too horrible.

I have level 2 order magic and level 2 rune magic. Rune magic is the only damage spells I've gotten, Winter Dance DOES tear them up well, but with skeletons able to bone gate behind me and skeleton archers just plain tearing things up it's nigh impossible not to suffer at least two losses, and Soothsayers can only heal one. And Ahriman himself has enough mana to cast Poison Skull any time throughout the whole battle to instantly end your attempt.

Berserkers do tear things to shreds though. Rune of Attack + Berserker + Shock Shield can easily turn into two critical hits at 50 attack. It's saved my butt more than once to be able to output 400 damage to a stack in a single round. Low health kills them if someone else gets the first hit in though, and they will charge right into it on the next round.

I'm going to try loading up on bears and doing it that way. Until now I've been ignoring the neutrals for the morale bonus, but maybe they will work better.

I wonder if Warrior Maidens could be available, or if Stone Skin could appear. Either of those could make this much more doable.

[Zhuangzi]

I'm sick of no-losses, even though I imagine it's possible on Impossible here like in previous KB games. I'm just going for low losses and if 2 slinger die, meh.

[Razorflame]

Originally Posted by Loopy

Started my first game on impossible as a mage. Ahriman is a ridiculous stone wall to a no loss game. Soothsayers just plain suck at resurrection, undead are immune to too many things that could make it easier, and your ranged abilities are just too horrible.

I have level 2 order magic and level 2 rune magic. Rune magic is the only damage spells I've gotten, Winter Dance DOES tear them up well, but with skeletons able to bone gate behind me and skeleton archers just plain tearing things up it's nigh impossible not to suffer at least two losses, and Soothsayers can only heal one. And Ahriman himself has enough mana to cast Poison Skull any time throughout the whole battle to instantly end your attempt.

Berserkers do tear things to shreds though. Rune of Attack + Berserker + Shock Shield can easily turn into two critical hits at 50 attack. It's saved my butt more than once to be able to output 400 damage to a stack in a single round. Low health kills them if someone else gets the first hit in though, and they will charge right into it on the next round.

I'm going to try loading up on bears and doing it that way. Until now I've been ignoring the neutrals for the morale bonus, but maybe they will work better.

I wonder if Warrior Maidens could be available, or if Stone Skin could appear. Either of those could make this much more doable.

as mage u can at least cast spells

i'm playing impossible with a warrior

and ahriman is really one pain in the ass with his spells

i just can't kill his units quick enough meh :/

and SLINGER really are the worst sucky units ever produced lol their low hp is ridicoulous

[Bhruic]

Originally Posted by Zechnophobe

The tutorial fights will be easy, since you have the high level troops for it. But I'm pretty worried that you just won't be able to get off that first island without serious effort for no-loss. You don't get many spells, and most of your troop selection are medium health melee creatures. Slingers are very flimsy, and Berserkers can't really tank. Maybe if you limit yourself to soothsayers and Axe throwers?

Perhaps the Bear guy will sometimes sell polar bears?

Yeah, it's extremely difficult to pull off. Even killing the 4 heroes to get the whips was difficult because of their tendancy to cast damage-based spells. The major problem - and difference from the previous games - is that you are hemmed in. You just can't go anywhere else until you beat Ahriman, but it's very easy to get to a point where he's the only fight you have left (well, barring the huge skeleton/skeleton archer stack). If you had the option of hitting up another island, doing some more fights and leveling up, or finding different troops to hire, you might stand a chance.

I'm playing Mage/Hard, and I'm almost at the point of just saying "screw it" and accepting losses on the fight. Barring a restart, there's really nothing else I can do to try and improve my chances.

[Totoro]

Maybe losses are inevitable in WoTN. Don't become too obsessed about it. Just try to enjoy the game.

[Zechnophobe]

Originally Posted by hotfix666

in this game you can not digg after wander scrolls so thats can be hard on impossibel?

I did no-loss in KB:AP just fine without abusing the dig effect. That said, if you want a minimum time game, yeah... it's going to be a lot rougher.