Lacking of 'Soul' in IL2 'offline missions/campaigns?

[dflion]

Being an ‘offline’ mission/campaign builder I disagree with several recent threads that the current IL2 lacks the ‘soul’. Having just completed my ‘Long nose Focke-Wulf – Eastern Front Campaign’ I have really enjoyed working with the new maps (Slovakia and Bessarabia) which have some ‘mods’ introduced on the airfields – you can take-off and land two or three flights of aircraft at once in the same direction. Some of the airfields have the classic ‘crossover’ layout with circular connecting taxiways – similar to many British BOB airstrips.
You can see that Oleg is experimenting with getting more aircraft into the air at the same time and this helps at the interception point, especially when intercepting bomber formations. This ‘mod’ increases the historical accuracy and ‘Soul’ of the current game. You also do not need to ‘que-up’ for landing.

There certainly needs to be a lot more ‘trigger points’ in the new BOB SOW flight sim, which would increase the current ‘Soul’ of the game in both ‘online’ and ‘offline’ modes, for example:-
• When you lose a Flight leader, somebody else immediately takes over issuing orders with authority.
• If you are flying in No.2, No.3 or No.4 position, you have more interaction with your flight e.g. if your aircraft has run out of ammo or fuel, been severely damaged or you are wounded, you can report that you are returning to base, without copping a pasting from your Section leader.
• When you return to base you can taxi to an ‘interactive refuelling/rearming point’ and then take-off again and return to the same action to help your comrades. (you may be stopped from taking-off if you are wounded, or your plane is too badly damaged)
• You have a better ‘interactive map’ and access to original written orders within the cockpit e.g. If you are a flight commander you can change your map waypoints ‘in-flight’ as the air battle changes and refer to original written orders (you may have forgotten something?)
• While flying the weather may suddenly change, which means issuing new orders to your flight.
• There is ‘a moral factor’ built in. As a leader, are you leading your flight by making the right decisions and winning (are your pilots happy with your leadership?). If you are not leading effectively, you may be transferred or demoted.
• If you are a Wing Commander or equivalent, you have more ‘tactical influence’ in the outcome of the air battle – you can call on help from different Squadrons and their commands if the situation changes.( They may not be able to come and help you?)
• You need to complete a rigorous flight training course (including air navigation, operating in different weather situations, air to air and air to ground practice firing) before being accepted into an active Squadron.
• Lack of proper Squadron logistics (lost due to bomb damage) e.g. petrol, ammo, personnel, planes etc. can effect how many planes you can get into the air.
I am sure Oleg is working on a lot of the points I have mentioned above which will launch the flight sim to a new level both in ‘online’ and ‘offline’ modes, giving it even more ‘Soul’.
DFLion

[LEXX]

All good ideas.

[HFC_Dolphin]

Offline mode sucks for me.
It's the most boring thing in the world imo.
But anyway, it's good to know that some other people can enjoy it!

[DKoor]

I forced DGen "dynamic" campaigns for a long time.

Truth to be told, only when I "discovered"
static user made and
other third party campaigns
I realized just how wrong I was.

Static campaigns are much better than dynamic campaigns in IL2.

I hope something will be done in Sow regarding this.

[Feathered_IV]

Ten good reasons off the top of your head as to why the Il-2 offline experience lacks soul is a good start. I just hope the dullards and creatively challenged don't all come storming in to shoot down every promising concept before they can be discussed properly. Many here are determined to ruin the chances for a truly next gen experience in SoW campaigns. F*ck knows why.

[HFC_Dolphin]

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV

Ten good reasons off the top of your head as to why the Il-2 offline experience lacks soul is a good start...

There is only one reason imo: you don't play with and against human and that's enough for me

But if you ask me how you could make offline mode better, imo there would be a good chance if you could make the results comparable. At this moment, playing offline is only good for test reasons, cause you cannot compete. You just fly alone and after a while if you don't fall asleep you understand that you are alone in this world lol

Anyway, as stated in my original post, this is only my opinion (which, surprisingly, I've found many people sharing in all these years hanging around in the community).

[Ctrl E]

where and how do i download the Slovakia and Bessarabia maps?

[ECV56_LeChuck]

I´ve played more than a year with IL-2 Offline and it´s work great for me. Learned a lot about the simulator and when I started playing online doesn´t feel SOOO lost. I don´t think that Offline mode lacks of soul, it´s just like any other sim/game, with the time became boring. I enjoy a lot DGEN because the promotions, stats, squad, etc, and found Lowenrings DGEN a lot more fun that the original one. But it gives a lot of re-playibility for me.
Maybe in BoB we´ve a better DGEN, that get you most in the campaign.
Sorry my english.

[proton45]

Originally Posted by Feathered_IV

Ten good reasons off the top of your head as to why the Il-2 offline experience lacks soul is a good start. I just hope the dullards and creatively challenged don't all come storming in to shoot down every promising concept before they can be discussed properly. Many here are determined to ruin the chances for a truly next gen experience in SoW campaigns. F*ck knows why.

agreed

[GF_Mastiff]

Originally Posted by ECV56_LeChuck

I´ve played more than a year with IL-2 Offline and it´s work great for me. Learned a lot about the simulator and when I started playing online doesn´t feel SOOO lost. I don´t think that Offline mode lacks of soul, it´s just like any other sim/game, with the time became boring. I enjoy a lot DGEN because the promotions, stats, squad, etc, and found Lowenrings DGEN a lot more fun that the original one. But it gives a lot of re-playibility for me.
Maybe in BoB we´ve a better DGEN, that get you most in the campaign.
Sorry my english.

sorry for the question but what is DGEN?