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Old 10-18-2011, 09:32 AM
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Hi does any know how to set the compass if it works in the spit mk1a or procedure thanks in advance
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Old 10-18-2011, 11:02 AM
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There is a video on these forums regarding how to set your compass in a spit or hurri, also on you tube.

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Old 10-18-2011, 12:52 PM
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youtube vid is here,

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Old 10-18-2011, 08:41 PM
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I've found this to work but if you make any fast braking moves then the compass is off and holding level flight to reset is very difficult. TC
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Old 10-21-2011, 08:09 AM
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My problem is actually seeing the compas without having to move the joystick out of the way.

How are other people looking at the compas in straight and level flight?

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Old 10-21-2011, 05:10 PM
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I would love the system in RoF, where you can map a certain view to a button. Push the button, and you would be zoomed in on the compass for example. A great workaround for the limitations of a computer game.

Or, and here's a radical idea, the HUD from il2 worked perfectly...
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My problem is actually seeing the compas without having to move the joystick out of the way.
You can make the same view moves of TrackIR with mouse.
Press the key “Hold to Adjust Field of View” - middle mouse for default - and with mouse slide POV to right or left, with FOV in 60 degrees.
To recenter FOV default key is "/".

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Old 10-22-2011, 07:11 AM
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Its not so desperate in CoD, England and France is not so hard to navigate. Once we get to the Med and Russia things will get a little more difficult
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Old 10-22-2011, 06:23 PM
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Any gyroscopic instruments used in airplanes are carrying minor error wich needs to be corrected within flight. Thanks to developers of this brilliant simulator we have chance to experience the same gyro disfuncionalities of gyro instruments. At this stage of development, I did't notice any errors in altimeter yet but I am sure it will be done at some stage... Anyway like in real life remember to correct your directional gyro after vast and rapid changes in altitude, heavy aerobatics or g-loads, eventually every every 15min.
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Old 10-23-2011, 08:38 AM
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Off topic, what's the point of the gyro compass, isn't a setup like the 109 had much easier and less chance of getting lost? Why bother having a compass that works on the floor, to set up one that messes up every 15 minutes?
The Magnetic compass experience errors when turning.

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Errors inherent to compass turns

Several types of errors will affect the heading indication provided by a magnetic compass in a turn. Thus the magnetic compass cannot be used reliably when turning.

[edit] Pitch limits

A limitation imposed by a compass' construction is that the balancing bowl's pin, which is connected to a pivot point, only allows for, in most compasses, a pitch or bank of 18 degrees before the compass will touch the side of the casing. When the compass touches the side of the casing the freedom of the plane to rotate around the compass is lost and the compass becomes unreliable.

[edit] Magnetic dip

A second limitation is magnetic dip. When the aircraft is at any altitude above the Earth's surface, the compass dial will tend to align itself with the geomagnetic field and dip toward the northern magnetic pole when in the northern hemisphere, or toward the southern magnetic pole when in the southern hemisphere. At the equator this error is negligible. As an aircraft flies closer to either pole the dipping error becomes more prevalent to the point that the compass can become unreliable because its pivot point has surpassed its 18 degrees of tilt. Magnetic dip is caused by the downward pull of the magnetic poles and is greatest near the poles themselves. A weight is often placed on the compass of the aircraft on the equatorial side to help negate this effect. Compass navigation near the polar regions, however, is nearly impossible due to the errors caused by this effect.

When in straight and level flight the effect of magnetic dip is of no concern. However when the aircraft is turned to a new heading the following two rules apply for the northern hemisphere:

First, when on an easterly or westerly heading and the aircraft accelerates, the inertia effect of the weight on the compass in the magnet causes the compass to show a false turn towards the north if in the northern hemisphere or vice versa a false turn towards the south if in the southern hemisphere. Also if the aircraft is decelerated the compass will show a false turn towards the south in the northern hemisphere and false turn towards the north in the southern hemisphere. The force is neutralized when the aircraft has reached its velocity and the magnetic compass will then read the proper heading. Pilots in the northern hemisphere remember this by the acronym ANDS; accelerate north, decelerate south. The opposite occurs when flying in the southern hemisphere. This error is eliminated while accelerating or decelerating on heading of exactly North or exactly South.

Second, when on a northerly heading and a turn towards the east or west is made the inertia effect of the weight on the compass in the magnet causes the compass to lag behind the actual heading the aircraft is flying through. This lag will slowly diminish as the aircraft approaches either east or west and will be approximately correct when on an east or west heading. When the aircraft turns further towards South, the magnetic compass needle will tend to lead the actual heading of the aircraft. When a turn is made from south to an east or west heading the compass will lead the actual heading the aircraft is flying through, it will diminish as the aircraft approaches either east or west, and it will lag as the aircraft turns further towards North. The magnitude of the lead/lag will be approximately equal to the aircraft's latitude. (An aircraft at 30° north latitude will need to undershoot 30° while turning directly north, and overshoot 30° while turning directly south) The pilots community uses acronym UNOS (undershoot North overshoot South) to memorize this rule. Some other acronyms which pilots find easier to remember is NOSE (North Opposite, South Exceeds), OSUN (Overshoot South, Undershoot North), and South Leads, North Lags [opposite in the southern hemisphere] This guideline is based not on a standard-rate turn, but on a bank angle of 15°-18°, which would equal a standard rate turn at the airspeeds typical of light aircraft.
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