Porsche shows how easy it is to make a lot of money

[baronWastelan]

Simply build the best in the world, and people all over the world will line up to give you their money

Porsche to launch new 911; global sales surge

By Christoph Rauwald
STUTTGART (MarketWatch) -- Porsche AG's global sales surged in August despite swirling recession fears in some of its core markets and the German sportscar maker expects further growth in coming months as it prepares for the presentation of the new generation of its iconic 911 model at the Frankfurt motor show Tuesday.

"We expect stable progress for the rest of the year," Porsche sales chief Bernhard Maier said in an interview at the company's headquarters here.

"We have the highest order intake in the company's history and are likely to reach our sales targets," he added. Porsche aims to sell more than 100,000 cars in 2011. It sold around 95,000 cars last year.

Maier's comments echo similar remarks by other European auto industry executives, who stated that to date the sovereign-debt concerns in Europe and the U.S., which triggered turmoil on financial markets in recent weeks, so far haven't hurt demand for new cars.

Maier said the four-door Panamera coupe could account for around 28,000 car sales this year, exceeding Porsche's initial sales target of 20,000 cars. He noted that demand is so strong at the moment that customers have to wait for up to 12 months [???] for certain versions of the revamped Cayenne sports-utility vehicle.

Porsche's global sales rose around 43% on the year in August to more than 9,000 cars. Sales in China more than tripled year-on-year.

In the January-to-August period, Porsche's global sales rose around 30% to more than 80,000 cars. The company is expected to release detailed sales figures Monday ahead of the Frankfurt motor show.

The seventh generation of Porsche's 911 model is set to contribute to sales momentum from December onward, when deliveries are due to start.

Maier said Porsche could sell around 30,000 of the new 911 cars per year once all versions of the revamped model are available. The 911 accounted for 21,000 car sales last year.

The new 911 Carrera features a six-cylinder engine with 350 horsepower that can accelerate to 100 kilometers per hour (60 miles per hour) in 4.6 seconds. The average fuel consumption is 8.2 liters per 100 kilometers. This compares to 325 horsepower, 5 seconds and 11 liters for the current model.

"North America is still the biggest market for us, closely followed by China," he said, adding that he expects "a head-to-head race" between its two largest sales regions in coming years.

Porsche plans to increase its Chinese dealerships by 12 to 45 this year and keep the number of North American dealerships stable at around 190.

He noted, however, that Porsche currently isn't considering producing cars outside Germany. He added that, particularly in Asia, cars made in Germany enjoy a reputation for top quality. Starting production abroad would be an option only if high import taxes would make a major market economically unviable.

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[Sternjaeger II]

uhmmm I dunno man, Porsche makes great cars (not all of them, the Panamera and Cayenne are an abomination IMHO), but the best in the world?

They have a valid point though in keeping production within Europe me thinks, look at the bloody shambles made by Volkswagen with their Mexico production!

There's still something missing on Porsches though, that oomph factor that other supercars and sport cars have: by definition, a sports car needs to be distinctive, not just performing.. it's like the German car engineering has killed (or never had) any "crazy factor" in its sports car production..

Even when they surpassed themselves with this



someone in Stuttgart must have gone "Nein!! That's too crazy looking, we shall stick to the Beetle looks! FOREVER!!"

Come on Porsche, let the magic happen once more..

[Kongo-Otto]

Originally Posted by baronWastelan

Simply build the best in the world, and people all over the world will line up to give you their money

Just call it "Made in Germany"

[baronWastelan]

Not only made, also Tested In Germany

[TomcatViP]

350hp & 8.2liters that I am dreaming off

(got a 13L per 100 here )

By the way for the price of the new Porshe what kind of plane could you get and how many Steam account for CoD ?

A Bavarian drink goes to the winner

[ATAG_Bliss]

Ahh! A thread about cars

I'm a bit of a horsepower nut. I don't think you can really have a "best of" cars as soo many people like so many different things.

Personally, I like obnoxious V-8's with tons of power. I'm a straight line racer and there's nothing quite like putting around in a fuel injected 1300 HP car that runs on pump gas. Not a whole bunch of street cars out there that run 154 mph in 1320ft at 8.85 seconds. There's nothing quite like being on the edge of losing control in something that's uncontrollable. Hard to explain, but I'll probably die in a creation of mine someday.

Ford is bar none my brand of choice. Pretty cool to take a factory SUHICKY (SOHC) block and be able to make that kind of reliable power that I could drive to and from the track. I usually take off the parachute mount for the street though.

Basically I can't own anything that's factory or stock. I grew up with welders, mills, presses, and a shop full of tools being raised on a farm. So fabricating metal and working on the farm machinery (then my own vehicles ) was normal. Now sorting my time between work, games, and cars isn't easy. Thankfully I'm not a fan of sleeping or watching tv lol.









Anyone else a car guy? Post up some pics!

[baronWastelan]

You should like this Porsche: 200 mph in about 10 seconds. In 1973. With an air cooled engine. Even by today's standards this car is frightening. Oh, and it can corner too...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYBtCJDQqqg

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by baronWastelan

You should like this Porsche: 200 mph in about 10 seconds. In 1973. With an air cooled engine. Even by today's standards this car is frightening. Oh, and it can corner too...

man, I love that fan on top, looks like a Tiger tank!!

You have to appreciate that one thing is a supercar of the times vs your own garage monster, made with your own hand and as wisely said by ATAG_Bliss, likely to kill you

Truth is that thanks to technologies available nowadays, we have more pioneers and inventors around, who really have a great time and sometimes actually make something cool and interesting

How hard (or risky) is to do elaborations on a Porsche? I always got the impression that because of the little space available on the rear and for how normally well balanced things are, tweaking a Porsche is a bit of a no-no.. but then came the Cayman S..

Originally Posted by ATAG_Bliss

I'm a bit of a horsepower nut. I don't think you can really have a "best of" cars as soo many people like so many different things.

that is unless you're a Porsche head

[raaaid]

911 is a magic number

first started seeing 11:11 every where

then it would be 21:12 or 12:21

and now its 911 or 190 or 109

if i had the money i would buy that car just for the number

notice how also the "terrorist attacks happen in magic numbers:

911

7-7

11 march

hell this 11-11-11 better get the police ot work

edit:

they are transforming owe into terror

they did it with me with the 77 and 19 and 11

edit:


i dont know but id bet something on 911 a 777 was involved

[baronWastelan]

How hard (or risky) is to do elaborations on a Porsche? I always got the impression that because of the little space available on the rear and for how normally well balanced things are, tweaking a Porsche is a bit of a no-no.. but then came the Cayman S..

Not trying to be flippant, but honestly, as an owner of an air-cooled Carrera, I can recommend a video game called "Forza Motorsport 2", if you want to get an idea of the performance mods and tweaks available for the popular Porsche models 911, 914, 930, 996 and 997 as well as the Cayman S. Sadly they didn't include the 964 or 993 Carrera (the 993 is only available in GT2 trim). I haven't played the game in many years since I no longer have my Xbox360, but one thing that really pi$$ed me off about FM2: every car had rear wings as available upgrades, except the Carreras. You might not think rear traction would be a problem with the engine back behind the rear wheels, but look at the profile of the 911: it's an airfoil. At 150mph, you will lose a lot of road-holding ability without some sort of rear spoiler, like the duck tail on the 2.7 RS. The automatic extendable rear spoiler that was introduced in 1989 is actually a retractable duck tail, and is still in use today on the latest Carreras. Many Porsche owners opt to replace it with a fixed wing, often in conjunction with front spoilers.

The engine mods in FM2 for the "high performance" cars like Porsche and Ferrari are to be taken with a large grain of salt. Whatever "cheap" improvements to ignition and exhaust are possible to increase HP have aready been implemented by the manufacturers (speaking mostly of the 1990's and later models). For the Porsches, suspension and tires are where upgrades can give the biggest improvement in lap times, in FM2 as in real world, since standard suspensions are tuned for ride comfort over high speed cornering. Big increases in power on the naturally aspirated flat-6 requires an expensive forced-induction solution, or in the case of sub-3.6-liter engines, a newer bigger engine. There are many real-world examples of naturally aspirated Carrera 3.6 engines that are running reliably with bolt-on blowers. You can try these as well for yourself in FM2. Probably in FM3 as well, I haven't tried that version.