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Old 01-18-2008, 05:29 AM
Von_G Von_G is offline
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Default Reason for offset German sights?

Based upon what I can see in the cockpits there doesnt seem to be any practical reason why the German planes have their sights over to the right.

There definitely dont seem to be any ergonomic benefits.

Anyone know the reason for this?
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Old 01-18-2008, 05:35 AM
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look at your controls section, there is button for moving the head forward- back, moving forward will bring the sight to the middle.

The reason (as far as I know, correct me if Im wrong) in real life was that the sight was positioned so that it was directly in front of right eye, so that the pilot did not have to move his head to aim.

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Old 01-18-2008, 06:38 AM
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Thanks Kurkio, got the shift-F1 thing undercontrol.
I was mainly interested in the R/L reasons for the offset.

Your explanation that it was to put the sight in front of the right eye sounds reasonable, but the offset appears to be significantly more than would account for that.
Also, as humans have binocular vision I dont see any real benefit to having it directly in front of the right eye only.

In fact I can see it being a disadvantage to those whose left eye is stronger.
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Old 01-18-2008, 07:27 AM
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In fact I can see it being a disadvantage to those whose left eye is stronger.

I doubt he would be a pilot then at all.
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Old 01-18-2008, 07:28 AM
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Your explanation that it was to put the sight in front of the right eye sounds reasonable, but the offset appears to be significantly more than would account for that.
Also, as humans have binocular vision I dont see any real benefit to having it directly in front of the right eye only.

In fact I can see it being a disadvantage to those whose left eye is stronger.
As the Germans shot bown more planes, obviously there must have been some advantage?
But back to real life most Luftwaffe gun sights are off set to the right, theory being it gave a better view when flying normally which accounted for 90% of most fighter missions anyway, the Me109, Fw190 He219 Me262 and Me163 are all off set to the right.
The other theory is the right eye theory which does not hold much water in MHO.
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Old 01-18-2008, 09:08 AM
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Sorry...this is off topic but I had to post it. I was reading this thread and thought I'd try a little research. I entered into Google "German revi sight offset" and stumbled across this...LOL

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Hi, I dont like IL-2 and I think that it is not very accurate as many think. Russian & German pilots said always that the IL-2 (Black Death) is very agile, but in the sim it is like a pregnant duck. The FW-190 is behaving much different than German pilots report. Personally I think that CFS2 with all the add-on's has much more the 'feeling-like-real-effect' than IL-2. IL-2 has a somewhat 'static & syntethic' feeling. CFS-3 will beat the hell out of IL-2 in EVERY aspect.......and the good news is: It is coming out in autumn!

IL-2: The most overrated sim in the last 10 years.
Source: http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/ga...-gunsight.html
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Old 01-18-2008, 09:49 AM
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Sorry...this is off topic but I had to post it. I was reading this thread and thought I'd try a little research. I entered into Google "German revi sight offset" and stumbled across this...LOL



Source: http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/ga...-gunsight.html

Besides the fanboy talk, there's some rumor getting more substantive: CFS3 is coming and its the most probable reason for the information war going on between CFS and BoB.
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Old 01-18-2008, 10:03 AM
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I just think it's hilarious as that was posted back in 2002
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Old 01-18-2008, 01:20 PM
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Hello von G.

The Revi was offset to the right to gain a better forward view. To aim correctly it was sufficient to close the left eye.
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Old 01-18-2008, 03:38 PM
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So it's off to the side to give an unobstructed view and for right eye aiming?
Any sources on this?

I have to wonder, if putting the sights off to the right like that was such a good idea, why didnt any other airforces do it?
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