Is Russia ovepowered online?

[teblin]

Hey guys, been playing Men of War for over a year now and one thing really pisses me off online. I've played 90 games online, almost exclusively tanks only(but even when not the issue is still clear) and the Russian team ALWAYS wins.

Tanks only - From my point of view the best tank faction is Germany and SHOULD be able to stand up to nearly all Russian tanks. Early-game the T-34/76 and /57 dominate the Pz. IV G and H, mid-game the Tiger and Panther are somehow beaten by KV-85 and IS-1, and late-game the KT always loses to the IS-3.

Russian tanks seems to be better than any other nations' equivalent while also being cheaper. My most recent game, Germany vs. Russia tanks only, resulted in another defeat. One really annoying part was a T-34/85's front armour bouncing a Nashorn shot at 70 metres(!?!?!?) but things like this seem to happen all the time. The IS-3's front armour isn't extremely thick but can bounce the KT's shots over and over again while the King tiger's 180mm armour sloped at 55 degrees is pierced almost without question even at long range by the 122mm.

Then there's the ISU-152. It's very cheap and EXTREMELY powerful. It can simply blow the turret off the most heavily armoured tank at any range. Since it also fires at a high trajectory it can hide behind hills and in craters and is impossible to target itself.

Am I the only person that feels this way? Should an IS-1 be able to deflect a Panther's shot 6+ times at 40 metres and should a Tiger be knocked out by a T34/57 at 80 metres?

Russian developers = Russian faction bias?


I look forward to an explanation.

-Regards, teblin.

[KnightFandragon]

Believe me, this has been my number 1 question about this game that ive NEVER figured out. I have done tons of looking into the game's files and stuff looking for a possible clue as to how to make shells bounce less or why they bounce off certain tanks more and all that crap dealing with Penetration and drew a blank.

Its like there is some mechanic under the hood that noone can know about or see and if they discover it they will have the NKVD shoot them in their sleep that deals with weapon Penetration. I have noticed German guns in General penetrate less often against things that their pen numbers say they can and even at close ranges. Ive noticed Russian tanks being exceptionally resilient to fire. Ive been in 2 Rus Vs Ger Tank only battles and just like you said, Russians always win...well it was no different there. In the one battle in which I was Germans, I popped a SU152 in the side with a Panther like 5 times before that very Su 1 shotted my KT....Penetration is one mystery about this game that just has no awnser. My only idea is that this game include armor slope, all russian tanks have armor slope and Slope in this game is GOD. If your tank has it "Russians", then you will likely live. If your armor is flat "Germans", for the most part...you lose. The only tanks ive seen in the German army that are decent are the Panther 'sloped' and KT 'sloped'. The flat faced ones die left, right, up down and in any direction you can think of. I have done tests in various forms to try to get some consistency to Pen values and nothing, aside from slope, I got nothing lol..

[teblin]

Indeed, it's a real shame. It makes this game annoying for me online as I like to play the German faction consistently. Germany struggles with USA mid-game! But with Russia it's unbelievable.

The Panther was one of the best tanks of the war, yet in-game the gun and armour both seem to under-perform. >:[

[[SOE]No.Mam]

hetzer works perfect against T34/76 and T34/57
panther is fine till IS-1
nashorn or jagdpanther is enough for russian heavy tanks.

ISU-152??? against this tank its only a lucky shoot gameing. panther should be enough against ISU - but you need luck. hold your tanks on movement against ISU-152 and use long reloding time from ISU.