Fulqrum Publishing Home   |   Register   |   Today Posts   |   Members   |   UserCP   |   Calendar   |   Search   |   FAQ

Go Back   Official Fulqrum Publishing forum > Fulqrum Publishing > IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover

IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-03-2011, 09:17 AM
Mysticpuma's Avatar
Mysticpuma Mysticpuma is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Bromsgrove, UK
Posts: 1,059
Default What the clouds should look like in CoD. Video of clouds at altitude with Fighters

When it was announced 'many years ago' and I spoke with Oleg there was talk of most of the Graphics being place-holders. The Atmospheric effects were heavily mentioned, all of it being accurately generated, clouds would be huge, there was the possibility of flying through cloud layers.

Watch this video and imagine flying in that environment with your WW2 aircraft.

Watch especially as 22 seconds as the aircraft plunges through a cloud layer and comes out the other side......that is what I want! I want to believe I am in the air. I want an environment effect that says...you are in the clouds! Check out 50-seconds and look at that cloud layer as the aircraft skims over it! Another example of what the sky needs to be like. Not fluffy cotton balls!



This is an amazing video showing what clouds look like.

We all know what clouds look like. They are an integral part of the sky we fly in. They were used to evade and surprise the enemy. They need to be effective and not fluffy balls of cotton.

Can we please see something that shows us environmental effects? Rain, Snow, Cumulus, Cumuli Nimbus......just something rather than 'place holder' again!

Weather was a constant problem in England....it rains....a lot! I live here. Today is Grey, yesterday was Grey.....but above the clouds....it is Sunny. Show us something that says....CoD has Weather!

I just want to believe that so many years in development has created the 'New' IL2 and not an expansion pack!

I am not asking anyone to be on my side, I just wish to share my Opinion and back it up with video that shows what clouds look like at altitude when they exist!

Cheers, MP
__________________
http://i41.tinypic.com/2yjr679.png
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-03-2011, 09:35 AM
BigPickle
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Just in case you didnt know MP, the video is from :

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0421974/
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-03-2011, 09:40 AM
Mysticpuma's Avatar
Mysticpuma Mysticpuma is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Bromsgrove, UK
Posts: 1,059
Default

Thanks. Currently tracking it down. Awesome footage
__________________
http://i41.tinypic.com/2yjr679.png
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-03-2011, 11:22 AM
sigur_ros sigur_ros is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 74
Default

These are more like real cloud, no flat billboards.



But would make dx10 minimum requirement.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-03-2011, 11:50 AM
sweln sweln is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 28
Default

Well, Les Chevaliers du Ciel is a crap movie (Luc Besson production), but the visuals are pretty nice.

About the clouds, I haven't yet seen a game with good clouds yet. But the best skybox with nice volumetric lights are in Red Dead Redemption (best sky GodRays around).
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-03-2011, 12:00 PM
I/ZG52_Gaga I/ZG52_Gaga is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 174
Default

Have you guys ever seen the "Real Enviroment Xtreme" for FSX?

I think it is wonderfull and the fact that it gets updated by real data
on fixed intervals makes me love it even more!




more Screenshots here

http://www.flightsimworld.com/forums...owtopic=175883
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-03-2011, 01:14 PM
sigur_ros sigur_ros is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 74
Default

FSX clouds just flat billboards, no volume, no lighting, no shade.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-03-2011, 01:44 PM
Skoshi Tiger Skoshi Tiger is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Western Australia
Posts: 2,197
Default

Mystic,

Lovely video! I hope that someday I'll be able to fly in a sim that can look that good. Hopefully that sim will be IL2-COD.

If not at release then hopefully the sim will be successful enough to see it develop up to that stage. I'm willing to put up with the place holders until it has time to mature. (I honestly doubt my current PC could handle it at present)


Cheers and thanks for sharing!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-03-2011, 03:02 PM
Blackdog_kt Blackdog_kt is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,715
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by I/ZG52_Gaga View Post
Have you guys ever seen the "Real Enviroment Xtreme" for FSX?

I think it is wonderfull and the fact that it gets updated by real data
on fixed intervals makes me love it even more!




more Screenshots here

http://www.flightsimworld.com/forums...owtopic=175883
I like the way they look as well, but as others have said these are only 2D photos of real clouds without volume.

In short, they are perfect for a civilian sim but not good for a combat sim where we need 3D clouds, since they have a tactical use as well. For example, how can the game know when i'm inside the cloud if the cloud is 2D and how does it relay that information to the other guy flying against me online? With a 2D cloud i might think i'm inside the cloud and safe, but the other guy can see me just fine, etc. That's why 3D clouds are preferred in combat sims.



Quote:
Originally Posted by sigur_ros View Post
FSX clouds just flat billboards, no volume, no lighting, no shade.
Which kind of FSX clouds?
The default FSX clouds ARE indeed volumetric ones. The clouds on Gaga's post are not default FSX clouds, they are from a 3rd party add-on and they aren't volumetric.

Last edited by Blackdog_kt; 03-03-2011 at 03:05 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-03-2011, 04:35 PM
sigur_ros sigur_ros is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 74
Default

FSX default clouds bundles of billboards, not true volumetric.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 12:38 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2007 Fulqrum Publishing. All rights reserved.