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Old 08-12-2010, 11:16 PM
Armatian Armatian is offline
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Default Wich joystick to buy?

I need help to select a good joystick, a couple of facts:
-I need the best posible stick for the money, don't mind buttons, looks, i want reliable pots
-Can't buy hi-end, i'm from south america so prices are 4x
-My utterly first priority is smooth, precise x,y axis, a throttle would be nice, but i can manage to mod cheap joysticks to do that job. I've already had made pedals.
-Twist rudder not desired.
-If i could buy core logics and pots, happily would make my own, but i don't know how, that's even more difficult here.
-I almost buy saitek aviator, logitech pro, even cyborg, but reviews made me reconsider.

Is there any choices?, or i would need to save for years to buy hi end, like i did to finally buy my logitech g25?
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Old 08-12-2010, 11:19 PM
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What are you expecting to pay... say in dollars?

This will focus better answers for you
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Old 08-12-2010, 11:36 PM
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I can stretch from 75 to upward 100 if it's worth it, but 200 is definitely too much.
But as i said, if to get rid of unprecision, twitchy response, and weared pots after a couple of weeks, i need to do extra effort, but it take me a lot of time.
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Old 08-12-2010, 11:57 PM
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You do need: hotas

you don't really need: FF

(Well both would rock, but that would be the logi 940)

Top of my mind:

- X52 (don't go pro, it's the same stick)[there's a poti mod for the x52 which eliminates the dead zone]
- Cougar (used)
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Old 08-13-2010, 02:42 AM
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I'd recommend either an X-52 Pro or a CH setup.. Both are good... the X-52 is good in itself.. but the Pro is beefier, at least thats my understanding.. but either is good.. CH makes great stuff as well.. Many think it is far superior to the Saitek stuff.. I personally think you get more bang for the buck with Saitek.. Shop around though.. dont get either at the manufacturer's site.. You can find both cheaper elsewhere but you can get the specs on them on their sites.. The Saitek uses Hall Effect sensors as opposed to potentiometers.. I wouldn't bother with a Cougar... Great sticks if you have money to burn.. but...
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Old 08-13-2010, 02:48 AM
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Actually I would choose a good FFB stick over a Hotas as FFB really helps you on the edge of stall but that's just a personal preference.

Unfortunately their are no really good FFB sticks around anymore. The FFB stick to beat all FFB sticks was the MSFFB2 but they are hard to come by new and also I have heard they are hard to setup with win7 especially 64 bit.
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Old 08-13-2010, 03:01 AM
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The MSFT Sidewinder Forcefeedback 2 is an excellent stick.
It has a twist handle for rudder as well.
You can probably find a good used one pretty reasonable.
MSFT no longer produces it, but it is still a top choice, even used.

The CH Products are excellent, but the hotas package is expensive
Pedals $100 or more, Flighterstick $150 or more, Throttle $100 or more.
You have to have pedals with Fighterstick, because there is not twist handle rudder.

The Saitek Aviator is a nice stick with twist handle that isn't too back, not sure who makes it.


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Old 08-13-2010, 05:27 AM
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i'm just using this http://www.thrustmaster.com/files.as...D=155&Images=1

it's precise and cheap..
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Old 08-13-2010, 06:33 AM
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The only cheaper stick I've had is the Saitek Aviator which worked well, but I didn't have it long enough to see if it stood the test of time. I've also had all the high end CH, Logitech, and Saitek HOTAS, but they all have flaws of some sort. Although the latest Logitech drivers have greatly improved their product.

Your best bet is still the MSFF2 joystick which can still be bought on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/MICROSOFT-SIDEWIN...me_Controllers

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Old 08-13-2010, 07:43 AM
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If you can, before buying, go to a department store or shop and grab the joystick with your hands, feel the grip and see how it accomodates to you. Some Joysticks are too big for people having small hands. In such case , not all buttons can be reached easily, forcing you to change the position of your hand in critical moments.

Cougar and CH joysticks are IMHO for big hands. In Saitek's X52 and Cyborg Evo series you can adjust the position of the rest for your hand so it's suitable for the smallers.

And in case you were left-handed, X-52 is the better choice as you can adapt it to your right or your left.
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