Kiting on impossible?

[Sanctuary]

Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I keep reading about how some people are able to kite monsters away to get navigational charts for quite a long time before having to fight their first battle. Is this entirely luck based and do these people keep resetting until they are able to do it? I am only on Bolo, but I cannot get beyond that area because the chart is being guarded by an impossible pack in a narrow area that won't kite more than half of an inch before stopping. Again, is this luck based or is there some secret to pulling these packs out farther than what they would normally go? To clarify, I already have the rest of the available charts from Scarlet, Rusty and Debir.

[Razorflame]

that one is almost impossible

but doable

the trick is

u get very close
when u see the red marks on the enemy
pause

unpause move a little inch back

pause


(loop)

[Sanctuary]

Right, that's what I tried over and over again. I would move up to the point to where it would move close enough to almost hit me, then click around a fourth of an inch behind me to move and when I would move the pack would not and would then simply sit there a while and reset. The robot boss in the labyrinth seemed to be in a similar placement, but I was able to kite it out and grab the amulet without having to fight anything, and this should be the same but doesn't seem to be.

[N3MES1S]

Its not the same. The robot boss in the labyrinth has different path rutes that the troop u talking about. The troop u are talking about is almost impossible to kite, because sometimes it wont move, even if u are touching it xD. And if it moves, it will move only for a very short range, so that let u only a bit margin of maneouver. I tell u, i only did that once, i tried 6 more times without success, and now i directly fight the troop.

[Razorflame]

i have succeeded twice in getting that troop away:p

but i had to reload couple of times

but it was just for fun to see if it's possible to do
now i just fight it and own him

[Sanctuary]

I spent over an hour trying to move that pack out and it simply cannot be done, so I'm wondering if we are playing different versions of the game or something. The pack simply will not move ever beyond a certain point and there are plenty of spots like this all over the various islands, so I really have no idea how people are "kiting" their way so far unless like I said they are getting really lucky with item placement.

These packs also cannot be beaten when they say "impossible" as a low level Mage without phantom or any really good units. I'm at the point where there's absolutely nothing left to level up on that wouldn't cause a loss of at least one unit that I won't be able to get back and my group is pretty horrible. All I have to chose from are Royal Snakes, Paladins (no more than 7 were sold), one Ogre, 5 Mages, Inquisitors (that can only rez a max of 3 regular Priests or 2 snakes) and a bunch of Droids. Not only is that not a high damage setup, I lose out over time through attrition of mana and turns even though they can "tank" the time away up to around turn 15 or so, but not much dies.

[Zechnophobe]

There are tricks to it, as have been described. I am surprised you are unable to get to Rusty Anchor Island. there are multiple locations for this to show up.

1) Scarlet Wind, up the path on the left, in the woods on the right side of the path.

2) Bola, Right near to where you spawn when you get here, down the beach from the Barbarian who lost his wife.

3) Bola, right outside the house of the Barbarian wife. This is the only one that doesn't require either advanced kiting or combat to get two.


Both of the first two are pretty small battles though, and you shouldn't have a hard time with them for the most part. The units you describe are about the best you can generally get that early in the game. How much leadership do you have, and how full are your stacks?

[Razorflame]

well assuming he kitted as much as possible his army got weaker in the long run

kitting is bad
since u leave yourself weaker

it better to do as many battles as possible(unles they are really impossible i would suggest battle as much as u can and extend your spells as much as possible and rage also ofcourse)

[Sanctuary]

Originally Posted by Zechnophobe

There are tricks to it, as have been described. I am surprised you are unable to get to Rusty Anchor Island. there are multiple locations for this to show up.

1) Scarlet Wind, up the path on the left, in the woods on the right side of the path.

2) Bola, Right near to where you spawn when you get here, down the beach from the Barbarian who lost his wife.

3) Bola, right outside the house of the Barbarian wife. This is the only one that doesn't require either advanced kiting or combat to get two.


Both of the first two are pretty small battles though, and you shouldn't have a hard time with them for the most part. The units you describe are about the best you can generally get that early in the game. How much leadership do you have, and how full are your stacks?

I have been able to get to Rusty, that wasn't the problem, I couldn't get to Verona. I had Rusty, Bolo and Scarlet. I was trying to get to Verona and the map (unless it was a duplicate) was near a shrine to the left where the road forks after you go past the first flag/shrine. It also seems like certain cretatures that are the "leader" of the pack kite very differently than others.

My first attempt I had Griffins and they actually moved (still couldn't pull them all the way out though), but the next two games I had a Beholder and then a Berserker, neither of which would move more than almost a few pixels and then simply would sit there in my face. Sometimes they wouldn't even move at all until they were at a range where they could run up and hit me without me being able to move. There's a very similar area in the graveyard with the parrot in it where it's even more narrow and the pack just doesn't move until it would hit you. I started over and yeah, it's entirely luck based. On this playthrough I got an Ogre again from a scroll, was easily able to get the Verona map and now have Demonologists and Royal Griffins with Target. Neither of which were available in my previous games and I also ended up running around collecting enough cash before my very first battle to pick up the ancient amulet that was in the starting castle.

[Razorflame]

it's possible to kite all


some are just harder

u just have to "hug" it
(i tried it on different playthrough and everything was kiteable)

indeed some are very hard
but nonetheless possible
but kiting is weak

only use it as last resort