The Crystal Ball

[Abbeville-Boy]

Originally Posted by kendo65

That's one way of looking at it. But Luthier mentioned (in the last update I think) that certain aspects (weather primarily) of the game were going to take so long to fix anyway that any patch that brought them into CoD would be released so near in time to the sequel that it made more sense (technically and commercially I assume) to release them integrated into the new game.

I can see why people may not be totally happy or convinced by that but it seems that it is the way it will happen.

I would like to have seen things progress faster myself, but the attitude to the sequel really is a 'glass half empty' or 'half full' choice for everyone - we can either look at it as:

'if we don't get CoD fixed until the release of BfM with the merge, we will be expected to pay again for an unfinished sim that was released with known faults'

or we can look at it in terms of new aircraft, theatre, map(s) AND updated features that will be included and made applicable to CoD too - that is we're not going to be asked to pay more just to get CoD fixed, we will be getting new things for the money as well.

I'm not totally against your pov, but hopefully the next patch for CoD is going to be the one that does most to improve the game so far.

i can't see much of a chance that i would spend any more money on any cod expanshion, but thats just me

[nearmiss]

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[ParaB]

Originally Posted by Abbeville-Boy

i can't see much of a chance that i would spend any more money on any cod expanshion, but thats just me

You're not alone.

I'm still hoping that CloD finally gets that one patch that fixes all my issues with the sim, but I've pretty much given up hope, 9 months after release. I check back here every 1-2 weeks but I'm beginning to don't care any more.

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

Lmoa I hadn't seen the second one before, thanks

[RickRuski]

I for one won't be buying any expansion unless it can be proved that all the problems that are present with the current release are fixed. I will probably wait at least 12 mths after the release of the expansion to see what the results are by keeping an eye on posts at the forums if there are no further fixes to correct the current release. By that time the price will also have dropped just like this one has.

Reading comments from other members I'm not the only one with this idea.

Rick

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by RickRuski

I for one won't be buying any expansion unless it can be proved that all the problems that are present with the current release are fixed. I will probably wait at least 12 mths after the release of the expansion to see what the results are by keeping an eye on posts at the forums if there are no further fixes to correct the current release. By that time the price will also have dropped just like this one has.

Reading comments from other members I'm not the only one with this idea.

Rick

If I were you I wouldn't buy any expansions for many years, and think of the money you'll save. By then there will have been a number of features that improve COD, although it may be best to wait for the final expansion in fifteen to twenty years when it includes all the theaters. By then you could have a new computer that could run COD at 200 or 300 fps. What I'm trying to say is COD won't be finished for a very very long time, and will evolve considerably with features we've never seen before, especially when you add in user made content.

[Force10]

Originally Posted by Chivas

If I were you I wouldn't buy any expansions for many years, and think of the money you'll save. By then there will have been a number of features that improve COD, although it may be best to wait for the final expansion in fifteen to twenty years when it includes all the theaters. By then you could have a new computer that could run COD at 200 or 300 fps. What I'm trying to say is COD won't be finished for a very very long time, and will evolve considerably with features we've never seen before, especially when you add in user made content.

Yes...the nerve of Rick wanting to wait and see if the expansion is worth it. He's just supposed to just throw his money at 1C because they put out a flawless product that shouldn't even be questioned. Everything Chivas listed above is just an opinion on what's going to happen, I think it's been proven with this release that everyone's opinion on what this game was going to be fell far short. I agree that it might be 15 to 20 years before Clod is running good and has all the features that were expected though, so there's that.

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by Force10

Yes...the nerve of Rick wanting to wait and see if the expansion is worth it. He's just supposed to just throw his money at 1C because they put out a flawless product that shouldn't even be questioned. Everything Chivas listed above is just an opinion on what's going to happen, I think it's been proven with this release that everyone's opinion on what this game was going to be fell far short. I agree that it might be 15 to 20 years before Clod is running good and has all the features that were expected though, so there's that.

Common Sense and the business plan of the developer tells us that this series will follow the same pattern as the old series, unless of course it fails, which is anyones guess. Confidence in the developer will come back very quickly when and if the sim works. If the sim succeeds everyone succeeds, if it fails we all lose. If you want to throw the developer under the bus with every post fill your boots, I'll try to counter it.

[nearmiss]

Originally Posted by Force10

Yes...the nerve of Rick wanting to wait and see if the expansion is worth it. He's just supposed to just throw his money at 1C because they put out a flawless product that shouldn't even be questioned. Everything Chivas listed above is just an opinion on what's going to happen, I think it's been proven with this release that everyone's opinion on what this game was going to be fell far short. I agree that it might be 15 to 20 years before Clod is running good and has all the features that were expected though, so there's that.

Force10 --- I asked you very nice in PM message to stop all your negative junk talk when you came back off 2 week ban. It would appear you just don't get the message.

We have all heard every conceivable complaint and whine that can be uttered in the past year. No one can conjure up anything new in that respect. My sensibilities, along with regular posting members on this forums, are beyond tolerance for more of the same verbal tripe from the same people.

I asked you to take your negative talk elsewhere, if you couldn't refrain.

[Force10]

Originally Posted by Chivas

Common Sense and the business plan of the developer tells us that this series will follow the same pattern as the old series, unless of course it fails, which is anyones guess. Confidence in the developer will come back very quickly when and if the sim works. If the sim succeeds everyone succeeds, if it fails we all lose. If you want to throw the developer under the bus with every post fill your boots, I'll try to counter it.

I agree Chivas. I just don't think we should throw members under the bus for stating that they will wait for reviews from forum members before purchasing. I think it was the great philosopher Scotty from Star Trek who said "Fool me once, shame on you...Fool me twice, shame on me." lol