The Crystal Ball

[Chivas]

The sequel hasn't been announced yet, so with normal delays it will probably be a long time before release. This tells me there will be plenty of time to release patches for COD, and beta test features that were intended for the sequel.

[icarus]

Originally Posted by Ze-Jamz

Mate if the sequel is released and includes the content we were promised in the original CoD and runs as it should..you will buy it regardless of the state of CoD, same as anyone would..

Doesnt matter who you are and what opinions you have about 1c/CloD/Steam or whatever..If the games there and its good everyone will buy it..the people that wont are the ones that dont like flight Sims..Id like to think there isnt too many of them here

No I won't mate. Only if its a merge and only after the reviews say CoD is fixed.

[icarus]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Well put.

The Russian Front expansion will contain fixes that will automatically be applied to CLOD because of their merged install.

Looking forward to it.

That is different. A merged install will work. I will wait however for the reviews before I purchase this time to make sure CoD has been fixed.

[Chivas]

Merged installs has always been the business model for Maddox Games and they have stated a number of times this will continue thru the new series. If the development survives we will see a number of merged installs with more and more content that will add to all theaters. It certainly won't be quick enough for some, but most will enjoy the journey especially when the common game engine is finished and stable.

[icarus]

Merged installs work best when the first game is finished and the second adds content. A merge where the first game is left unfinished and the second is necessary to finish it.... is a very bad buisiness model.

Fix Cod first then merge.. is the best buisiness model for this game.

[Bewolf]

Originally Posted by icarus

Merged installs work best when the first game is finished and the second adds content. A merge where the first game is left unfinished and the second is necessary to finish it.... is a very bad buisiness model.

Fix Cod first then merge.. is the best buisiness model for this game.

A bit of reading here and there....

Luthier on CoD : We are still working on improving CoD. No one's abandoned it. There will be patches.
Luthier on sequel(s) : We’ll work along the model similar to the old Il-2. There’s a single progression line from version to version dotted by sequels. For example, we never released a patch for Forgotten Battles that contained new code from Pacific Fighters. The way to get it was to buy PF and merge it into FB. That’s exactly how it will be with CoD

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[Chivas]

Originally Posted by icarus

Merged installs work best when the first game is finished and the second adds content. A merge where the first game is left unfinished and the second is necessary to finish it.... is a very bad buisiness model.

Fix Cod first then merge.. is the best buisiness model for this game.

In a perfect world its always better to finish the first installment, but sometime shyte happens. Now they have to deal with it, by working on COD, and the sequel, at the same time. Sometimes business models have to be adjusted until you recover from the setback. I don't think its that unreasonable.

[RickRuski]

Like I have said in a post that seems to have been deleted by the moderators, and if we don't get CoD fixed until the release of BfM with the merge, we will be expected to pay again for an unfinished sim that was released with known faults as stated by the developers (Sli was broken just prior to release and we are working to correct it, for one). Then in April they stated once again that certain things were being worked on for correction in the coming weeks (still not done). To get these things corrected in a patch prior to release of BfM does not sound likely, regardless of assurances from some moderators and others.

Rick

[icarus]

Originally Posted by Chivas

In a perfect world its always better to finish the first installment, but sometime shyte happens. Now they have to deal with it, by working on COD, and the sequel, at the same time. Sometimes business models have to be adjusted until you recover from the setback. I don't think its that unreasonable.

Cool. As long as they don't force me to buy the sequel to get the finished product I bought in the first place. Because that would be a ripoff.

[kendo65]

Originally Posted by RickRuski

Like I have said in a post that seems to have been deleted by the moderators, and if we don't get CoD fixed until the release of BfM with the merge, we will be expected to pay again for an unfinished sim that was released with known faults as stated by the developers (Sli was broken just prior to release and we are working to correct it, for one). Then in April they stated once again that certain things were being worked on for correction in the coming weeks (still not done). To get these things corrected in a patch prior to release of BfM does not sound likely, regardless of assurances from some moderators and others.

Rick

That's one way of looking at it. But Luthier mentioned (in the last update I think) that certain aspects (weather primarily) of the game were going to take so long to fix anyway that any patch that brought them into CoD would be released so near in time to the sequel that it made more sense (technically and commercially I assume) to release them integrated into the new game.

I can see why people may not be totally happy or convinced by that but it seems that it is the way it will happen.

I would like to have seen things progress faster myself, but the attitude to the sequel really is a 'glass half empty' or 'half full' choice for everyone - we can either look at it as:

'if we don't get CoD fixed until the release of BfM with the merge, we will be expected to pay again for an unfinished sim that was released with known faults'

or we can look at it in terms of new aircraft, theatre, map(s) AND updated features that will be included and made applicable to CoD too - that is we're not going to be asked to pay more just to get CoD fixed, we will be getting new things for the money as well.

I'm not totally against your pov, but hopefully the next patch for CoD is going to be the one that does most to improve the game so far.