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Old 08-11-2009, 08:44 PM
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Sorry if it was read the wrong way
Not to be pedantic, but you should consider another possibility: that it was written the wrong way.
In my opinion, all of us should use more often the words “In my opinion”. And I think that “I disagree with you” can be more effective than “You’re saying nonsense”.
Anyway, I don’t want to make a case. Let’s go ahead with the thread. Peace.
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Old 08-12-2009, 03:48 PM
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Not to be pedantic, but you should consider another possibility: that it was written the wrong way.
In my opinion, all of us should use more often the words “In my opinion”. And I think that “I disagree with you” can be more effective than “You’re saying nonsense”.
Anyway, I don’t want to make a case. Let’s go ahead with the thread. Peace.
Sure why not...

I didn't say you were nonsense... I said the excuse given by Oleg and Team was nonsense. You gave the same line they did for not putting 6DOF into the sim so you took it the wrong way.

As for the soft language... I meant to use very strong language because what I pointed out was garbage and said couldn't be done to the quality levels that Oleg and Team wanted. Complete BS which was proven with the now famous 6DOF mod.

Moving forward with the topic. Adding the capability to the new client is a waste of time considering we've now had the capability for over a year now.

Let them focus on content or other things that are still broken. That list is still there.

Goofy FMs for 38s (early onset of compression) P51s with magical wing shedding. Wrong belting for certain weapons. FW fuel leak that never fixes and drains the plane in 1-2 mins. One 50 cal takes all three controls on the FW anton series. High Alt performance issues. Perfect torpedos.

The list goes on and on...
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Old 08-12-2009, 04:25 PM
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As stated by Martin in interview: the 4.09 was "safe card" we didn't touch any of existing planes or do any drastic changes into game.. yet. 1C will apply their own modifications based on 4.09 beta, what these will be in the end.. remains to be seen. Likely nothing major though.


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Old 08-12-2009, 08:00 PM
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Sure why not...

I didn't say you were nonsense... I said the excuse given by Oleg and Team was nonsense. You gave the same line they did for not putting 6DOF into the sim so you took it the wrong way.

As for the soft language... I meant to use very strong language because what I pointed out was garbage and said couldn't be done to the quality levels that Oleg and Team wanted. Complete BS which was proven with the now famous 6DOF mod.

Moving forward with the topic. Adding the capability to the new client is a waste of time considering we've now had the capability for over a year now.

Let them focus on content or other things that are still broken. That list is still there.

Goofy FMs for 38s (early onset of compression) P51s with magical wing shedding. Wrong belting for certain weapons. FW fuel leak that never fixes and drains the plane in 1-2 mins. One 50 cal takes all three controls on the FW anton series. High Alt performance issues. Perfect torpedos.

The list goes on and on...
Following your logic, some questions come to mind.
Why Oleg and 1C refuse so adamantly to correct so obvious mistakes?
Are they evil men? Are they simply stubborn and stupid? Do they want to spoil our gaming?
Why Oleg and 1C choose Daidalus instead of those great modders?
Apparently, Daidalus people hadn’t any problems in contacting Oleg, make their proposals and reach an agreement with him. What prevented modders to propose better solutions, including 6DOF and other magic?
I stop here, because, to use Nearmiss words “Discussion about, referrals and links to mods or MODs site is prohibited in this site”. But an uncomfortable feeling remains that the real aim of all those harsh words – deliberately harsh – is simply to diminish the work of Daidalus people.
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Old 08-12-2009, 10:22 PM
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At least some of the Daidalus people are the same as the modders.
I have seen people answering questions about the 4.09 patch and TD's work and then posting on the mod forums with the same usernames

It's just the way they add things that changed, one is unofficial, the other has a stamp of approval from the original development team.
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Old 08-13-2009, 04:19 AM
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Like American politics

Confusing

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Old 08-13-2009, 07:01 AM
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At least some of the Daidalus people are the same as the modders.
I have seen people answering questions about the 4.09 patch and TD's work and then posting on the mod forums with the same usernames

It's just the way they add things that changed, one is unofficial, the other has a stamp of approval from the original development team.
Ehm?.. Posting on modder's forums makes one a modder automatically?
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Old 08-13-2009, 07:07 AM
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Why Oleg and 1C choose Daidalus instead of those great modders?
The answer is the most simple: because any of those "great" modders wasn't able to produce a fully complete product, which won't require thorough testing and fixing by 1C.
The Daidalos Team managed to do so, however.
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Old 08-13-2009, 08:16 AM
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At least some of the Daidalus people are the same as the modders.
I have seen people answering questions about the 4.09 patch and TD's work and then posting on the mod forums with the same usernames

It's just the way they add things that changed, one is unofficial, the other has a stamp of approval from the original development team.
To me, this makes a HUGE difference, being respectful of intellectual property.
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Old 08-13-2009, 08:17 AM
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Like American politics

Confusing

You’re confused about American politics because you don’t know enough of Italian politics...
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