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[ATAG_Doc]

Originally Posted by Lixma

Guys, you know who you are, you really ought to give up on these (edit) apocalypse fantasies. You know the ones; It's finally happened - the 'sh*t has hit the fan' and you and your Glock are the only thing standing between a hoard of liberal, homosexual, zombie Democrats and your pregnant wife and subterranean stash of radiation-proof tinned goods.

It's not healthy, you know.

Not sure what you mean. Go grab The Original Argument and read it. It's a very good read and honestly I can't remember a time where America was alive and interested in their founding fathers. They are alive and are reading so much about our founders. It's an awakening like we've not seen probably since the atrocious Woodrow Wilson era. But it is a fantastic read and a new #1 best seller!

[nearmiss]

Lixma

I'd suggest you move onto something else, your last posting laced with vulgar expressions indicates frustration with the topic.

Just sayin' because vulgarity will get you a ban.

[Lixma]

It was meant as humour.

laced with vulgar expressions

No it wasn't.

(Maybe Democrat is considered vulgar in some circles...)

[ATAG_Doc]

Originally Posted by Lixma

It was meant as humour.



No it wasn't.

(Maybe Democrat is considered vulgar in some circles...)

Not really. Today's democrats are not like the ones I use to know. Today they have been infected by people and ideals that are not even of this land. They call it progressive now and they have sickened both left and right. But that word is dicey now days to. I supposed they will start calling themselves blue dog democrats next.
But everyone is onto them now

[Vengeanze]

Originally Posted by nearmiss

Lixma

I'd suggest you move onto something else, your last posting laced with vulgar expressions indicates frustration with the topic.

Just sayin' because vulgarity will get you a ban.

I'll be on my way too so u funboys can have the room for yourselfs.

[Hood]

I'm quite happy living without guns. If the stuff hit the fan I'd much rather that my neighbour has to come and whack me in the face than shoot my head off from across the street. If other countries want to allow guns that's fine, but that doesn't give them the right to criticise the UK, just as it doesn't give us in the UK the right to criticise the internal policies of other sovereign nations (and I'm talking specifically about gun law here, not frolics into Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya etc etc etc).

As for the argument about guns = crime well who knows. You're better off looking at the type of people who will use guns for crime. Anybody can flip and go on a killing rampage. If you equate the law that guns are not allowed in the UK with the recent riots, then that's plain ignorance. I really can't see an ordinary person (or fact an armed policeman or soldier) in the UK starting to indiscriminately shoot at rioters, and allowing guns would in my opinion simply escalate the fear and death.

And as for Stern's post about how the UK founded an Empire based on guns etc, that's also a teensy bit wrong too. In fact it was based on leadership and force of will, and the leaders were b&stards. The number of professional soldiers involved was small as most of the controlling forces in any territory were local levies. And of course a nations peoples move on from their past.

Don't be too sure about the character of British reserve as it's a veneer - we may not allow guns but scratch us a little bit and we'll bite your face off.

Hood

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Lixma

Guys, you know who you are, you really ought to give up on these (deleted word) apocalypse fantasies. You know the ones; It's finally happened - the 'sh*t has hit the fan' and you and your Glock are the only thing standing between a hoard of liberal, homosexual, zombie Democrats and your pregnant wife and subterranean stash of radiation-proof tinned goods.

It's not healthy, you know.

well frankly I don't think that surviving an apocalypse would be my dream, but if I have to I'd rather be prepared to fight. And yes, you can fight with knives, sticks and stones, but if I can knock you down forever from 300 yds I win.

Your blind faith and narrow sight on our society might fail you before than what you think unfortunately..

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Vengeanze

I'll be on my way too so u funboys can have the room for yourselfs.

I don't understand why some of you folks just can't have a simple exchange of ideas without getting their knickers in a twist.

[nearmiss]

Originally Posted by Lixma

It was meant as humour.



No it wasn't.

(Maybe Democrat is considered vulgar in some circles...)

Evidently, your conscience must be seared. You don't know from vulgarity.

Well when you get banned for vulgarity you sure won't know why will you?

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Hood

I'm quite happy living without guns. If the stuff hit the fan I'd much rather that my neighbour has to come and whack me in the face than shoot my head off from across the street. If other countries want to allow guns that's fine, but that doesn't give them the right to criticise the UK, just as it doesn't give us in the UK the right to criticise the internal policies of other sovereign nations (and I'm talking specifically about gun law here, not frolics into Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya etc etc etc).

Your country allows guns, not pistols, not full bore semiautos, but you can have shotguns, carabines and semiautomatic rimfire. That's enough for a good party.. and I have to say that people seem more ok about guns in the north than in the midlands/south..

As for the argument about guns = crime well who knows. You're better off looking at the type of people who will use guns for crime. Anybody can flip and go on a killing rampage. If you equate the law that guns are not allowed in the UK with the recent riots, then that's plain ignorance. I really can't see an ordinary person (or fact an armed policeman or soldier) in the UK starting to indiscriminately shoot at rioters, and allowing guns would in my opinion simply escalate the fear and death.

And as for Stern's post about how the UK founded an Empire based on guns etc, that's also a teensy bit wrong too. In fact it was based on leadership and force of will, and the leaders were b&stards. The number of professional soldiers involved was small as most of the controlling forces in any territory were local levies. And of course a nations peoples move on from their past.

Don't be too sure about the character of British reserve as it's a veneer - we may not allow guns but scratch us a little bit and we'll bite your face off.

Hood

Yeah, cos you went to India and talked them through the idea of being colonised, didn't ya?

I always admired and will always admire the determination of the British, the best "can-do" attitude I've ever seen, but it's far from what things used to be me thinks, just like many other countries. At least you kept the positive spirit and the good ales