wich one? saitek x52 or x52pro

[Sutts]

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

Well, to begin, the HAT and buttons:

I used the joystick about a year of heavy user, and all the buttons on the handle itself are OK. I use the HAT switch to FOV changes, and it's reliable untill now, no problem at all in using it. The other buttons, all OK, can do dive bombing and snap shots precisely.

The base buttons are almost useless, as the "throttle" slider. Bad positioning. I never use they at all. The "twist rudder" is crap, as any other.

The TM16000M is really good if you want a cheap joystick, with some of the better X/Y axis sensibility and precision in the market. I don't know if it will last for 5 years or more, but for the price, even two years of flawless use is better than the others options in market.

In ergonomics side, I get rid of the hand rest in the base of handle (it's fully customizable in this matter, you can put the hand rest left/right or not using it at all, very nice) and use it with ahome made elongated tube in central position. I can fly for hours with total confort and precision.

The TM16000M really looks cheap and nasty, but it's by far the best joystick for the price, having in mind only the joystick itself. Others like CH have great construction, but not so good accuracy and cost more. The X52 and X52Pro don't have the same precision, as all the other Saitek joysticks.

If you are thinking about a "worth the price" joystick, with some of the best X/Y precisiona and reliability in the market, TM16000M is a bargain. I can't recomend it enough.

People are now rushing to buy Warthog. TM16000M uses the same HALL sensor that Warthog and G940 uses, in a simple construction. We pay a lot for things we don't really need.

Now I'm waiting some cheap plastic flight sim pedals with HALL sensor!

Thanks LoBiSoMeM, some interesting information there.

I'm really interested in stick mods that will give me a full length flight stick with the correct amount of movement. Would be great if you could post a picture of your TM16000M extension mod please. Also, any chance you could point me to a site that outlines the work required?

Thanks!

[MadBlaster]

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

Well, to begin, the HAT and buttons:

I used the joystick about a year of heavy user, and all the buttons on the handle itself are OK. I use the HAT switch to FOV changes, and it's reliable untill now, no problem at all in using it. The other buttons, all OK, can do dive bombing and snap shots precisely.

The base buttons are almost useless, as the "throttle" slider. Bad positioning. I never use they at all. The "twist rudder" is crap, as any other.

The TM16000M is really good if you want a cheap joystick, with some of the better X/Y axis sensibility and precision in the market. I don't know if it will last for 5 years or more, but for the price, even two years of flawless use is better than the others options in market.

In ergonomics side, I get rid of the hand rest in the base of handle (it's fully customizable in this matter, you can put the hand rest left/right or not using it at all, very nice) and use it with ahome made elongated tube in central position. I can fly for hours with total confort and precision.

The TM16000M really looks cheap and nasty, but it's by far the best joystick for the price, having in mind only the joystick itself. Others like CH have great construction, but not so good accuracy and cost more. The X52 and X52Pro don't have the same precision, as all the other Saitek joysticks.

If you are thinking about a "worth the price" joystick, with some of the best X/Y precisiona and reliability in the market, TM16000M is a bargain. I can't recomend it enough.

People are now rushing to buy Warthog. TM16000M uses the same HALL sensor that Warthog and G940 uses, in a simple construction. We pay a lot for things we don't really need.

Now I'm waiting some cheap plastic flight sim pedals with HALL sensor!

Also a TM16000M user. It gets heavy use. I agree with this poster. The weak part of the stick is the twist rudder action and the slider. If you want the stick to last, don't use either of these. Map your rudder and throttle to something else. Everything else is thumbs up. I've seen them discounted to $25. I would buy again.

[Skiiwa]

X52 pro if U have the extra money. My X52 is a great beginning Hotas! I actuall have a mix if CH Stuff(Pedals, Stick and Quadrant, with Saitek Panels and Throttle quadrant). My X36 still works Saiteks Hotas are the best buy for a tight budget!

[ghodan]

Originally Posted by Chivas

The X52 was useless if you wanted to hit your target quickly. IF the X52 Pro fixed the huge deadzone issue then it may be a viable option. I also don't particularly like the programming software. Personally I wouldn't tough another one with a ten foot pole.

Unfortunately there hasn't been a good joystick since the MSFF2. Although the new Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas appears to have the qualities of a very good stick without force feedback. I will probably buy one soon, hopefully it won't join my Saitek X52, CH Fighterstick, Logitech G940, and Thrustmaster Cougar gathering dust in the basement.

What is wrong with your CH Fighterstick?