wich one? saitek x52 or x52pro

[Chivas]

The X52 was useless if you wanted to hit your target quickly. IF the X52 Pro fixed the huge deadzone issue then it may be a viable option. I also don't particularly like the programming software. Personally I wouldn't tough another one with a ten foot pole.

Unfortunately there hasn't been a good joystick since the MSFF2. Although the new Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas appears to have the qualities of a very good stick without force feedback. I will probably buy one soon, hopefully it won't join my Saitek X52, CH Fighterstick, Logitech G940, and Thrustmaster Cougar gathering dust in the basement.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Chivas

IF the X52 Pro fixed the huge deadzone issue

Invest 20min of your time and you wont have a deadzone anymore, even on a non-pro.

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by swiss

Invest 20min of your time and you wont have a deadzone anymore, even on a non-pro.

Hi Swiss, I bought one of the original X52's, and took it apart to fix the deadzone, but found it was a software issue that couldn't be adjusted in the stick setup. This was also verified by other users. BUT this was along time ago. What is the new fix.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Chivas

Hi Swiss, I bought one of the original X52's, and took it apart to fix the deadzone, but found it was a software issue that couldn't be adjusted in the stick setup. This was also verified by other users. BUT this was along time ago. What is the new fix.

Remove the magnet holder thingy, take both magnets, stack them up, put them directly underneath the hall, center them - done.

[Sokol1]

What is the new fix.

Magnets repositioning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfJNi...eature=related

JoyTester before:



After:



Stiffen spring:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tewzm...layer_embedded

"How To":

http://orbxsystems.com/forums/index....22992#msg22992 (You need register to access the forum).
http://www.ala13.com/foro/viewtopic.php?t=6460

Sokol1

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by Chivas

Unfortunately there hasn't been a good joystick since the MSFF2.

Try a cheap Thrustmaster 16000M. One year of heavy use here, modified to have longer shaft, and just perfect as the first day of use.

Maybe the moving parts don't last as long as a MSFF2, and I don't have FFB, but all the rest are really good.

One great and cheap piece of hardware, but with small recognition I don't know why.

[Antoninus]

Thrustmaster 16000M uses Hall sensors, the old MS sticks some optical sensor instead of potentiometers found in most joysticks. Both don't wear out over time

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

Try a cheap Thrustmaster 16000M. One year of heavy use here, modified to have longer shaft, and just perfect as the first day of use.

Maybe the moving parts don't last as long as a MSFF2, and I don't have FFB, but all the rest are really good.

One great and cheap piece of hardware, but with small recognition I don't know why.

This one stick I've never owned, and it could be a very good stick. Unfortunately its all user relative. There were glowing reviews of most of the sticks I've owned, but I think the reviewers never had a good joystick to compare them too. One man's junk in another man's treasure.

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by Chivas

This one stick I've never owned, and it could be a very good stick. Unfortunately its all user relative. There were glowing reviews of most of the sticks I've owned, but I think the reviewers never had a good joystick to compare them too. One man's junk in another man's treasure.

The resolution of TM16000M, the use of HALL in X/Y axes, and the price aren't relative. These facts make the joystick in question a bargain. JoyTest right now:



PS: Compare the minimum step and precision with X52pro...

Give it a try!

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

The resolution of TM16000M, the use of HALL in X/Y axes, and the price aren't relative. These facts make the joystick in question a bargain. JoyTest right now:



PS: Compare the minimum step and precision with X52pro...

Give it a try!

That test is impressive, fortunately I can no longer compare my X52. There wasn't anything I liked about it and got rid of it years ago. I still have the Cougar, CH Fighterstick, Aviator, and G940 as backups for my MSFF2. Although I use the Cougar throttle which is excellent.