Give me some "holy sh... did that just happen" ideas

[ECV56_Lancelot]

- Water falling over the windshield when you pass through a water column created by a bombas explosion over water. It could even make your engine couf or shut it down, if you absorb too much water.
I dont know the techinical detail of how much water the engines could absorb without shutting down.

To all people asking for AI mistakes, please, be carefull with what you ask. Because later on with the sim in our hands, we start to get threads everywhere complaining about "stupid AI shot me down", or crash over a mountain or the ground when it was chased by another aircraft, or complaining that they don't shoot down anything, or that they shoot down everything before i get the chance to shoot down an aircraft, and so on.

[TheGrunch]

Originally Posted by ECV56_Lancelot

Because later on with the sim in our hands, we start to get threads everywhere complaining about "stupid AI shot me down", or crash over a mountain or the ground when it was chased by another aircraft, or complaining that they don't shoot down anything, or that they shoot down everything before i get the chance to shoot down an aircraft, and so on.

I don't think the idea is always that these are events that are in the main AI routines, more like they can be scripted into particular missions.

[Insuber]

1\Few against Many
A common place of the BoB was that often few Spits and Hurricanes were sent to intercept huge gaggles of German bombers and fighters. Imagine popping out of the clouds just to see several miles long of tight bombers formations, with fighter covers already diving on you.

I had that thrill with Shockwave's Battle of Britain II, watching dozens of enemy planes sailing among beatiful towering clouds.
The Tally-Ho! of the squadron commander gave me that "Holy ...t!" feeling, that I can remember even so many years later.
Something similar is magisterially described by Pierre Clostermann in the last chapter of his "The Big Show", when they attack a Norwegian base among swarms of enemy planes.

2\Sector Control
I believe also that, as Feathered suggested, realistic radio comms from the Fighter Command and Sector Control, vectoring you to the bandits, will add a lot to the immersion. BoB on british side was all about Fighter Command, early wake ups, readiness in the dispersal barrack, calls from the phone, up in the air and then the voice of the controller on the radio (maybe with real Fighter Command characters like "Woody" Woodhall).

3\BBC
A funny fact, related by Brian Kingcome, was that the first radios were shortwave, and one could tune them in flight, so Kingcome used to tune on the BBC channels to listen to a popular songs program during the long and tedious convoy escorts ... all that ended at Brian's scorn, when VHF sets with fixed frequencies were fitted in the planes ...


Regards,
Insuber

[ElAurens]

Originally Posted by Insuber

3\BBC
A funny fact, related by Brian Kingcome, was that the first radios were shortwave, and one could tune them in flight, so Kingcome used to tune on the BBC channels to listen to a popular songs program during the long and tedious convoy escorts ... all that ended at Brian's scorn, when VHF sets with fixed frequencies were fitted in the planes ...


Regards,
Insuber

Hence my comments about Vera Lynn.

[Igo kyu]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Vera Lynn singing "White Cliffs of Dover" for the title music.

It was a 1942 song, so though in some ways appropriate, it would be anachronistic.

[Avat]

1. Oxygen system failures on high altitude (often in early months of BoB on Hurricanes Mk1)

2. More things to break in cockpit (like electricity fail, sparks from gauges etc.) and more available mechanical failures

3. Viewable pilot's hands and legs inside cockpit (and an ability to turn it off, just like in DCS)

4. Feeling like you're only small gear in war machine (lot of action everywhere)

5. Movie actions (just look at Call of Duty series - these guys are masters in emotion creation)

6. Bad airfield conditions like mud etc (hell for late german pilots)

7. Human animation (this Euphoria is great)

8. "Beepers" used by RAF to identify squadrons on radar

9. Full weather implementation

10. Crew members moving, talking, screaming inside planes

11. Every button available to click, everything available to turn off or turn on! Every gauge working! Just full working cockpit!

12. Bailing out and falling on a parachute - everything in 1st person perspective

13. Heavy pilot's breath in cockpit while under heavy G, wounded etc

14. Lot of radio communications, i dont want to hear 20 times same text in one mission


PS. Sorry for my poor English

[SlipBall]

Flying over the black forest and you spot her, I did'nt really see that, did I?


edited: may be against the rules, unsure

[ECV56_Lancelot]

- Se depth charges explosions.
It would look cool if you are flying over the north sea or the channel and find one or several destroyers throwing depth charges trying to hunt a submarine.

[LoyalNine]

1. I would like to see a user history more like Falocn4:AF that you can carry with you from one install to the next. Total time, a-a kills, a-g kills, ect...

2. An in depth After Action reporting system.

3. More of a campaign engine (again) line Falcon has. Falcon is years old and still has a campaign that pulls you in like no other and makes you feel as though you are part of a war enviorment that is truly alive.

4. I would like to see airfields have fuel depot (gas), Hangars (repairs), Office areas (morale or leadership maybe...) and runways (for taking of and landing obviously) depending on what you hit and damage you inflict could mean losing that item there. For instance if the fuel is 100% knocked out you can respawn there but start with the fuel you landed with. Or if they are damged, depending on teh amount there is again a points or time penalty to use it. If the just hangars are knocked out you respawn with a full tank but you still have damage or a time penalty to take off...

5. Damage that stays (Damaged) until its fixed somehow. If you launch an attack on an enemy airfield and crater the beginning middle and end of the runway than good luck talking off... of if you just crater one side of it it would have to be a short takeoff. If teh damage shaowed it would also allow other to know what to target because they can see it. I would love to see big smokin craters in the middle of a BLUE runway

6. Lastly I would like to see Voice Comms and a Hyperlobby style multiplayer area built into the game. None of these gamespy crap so many games use... sopmething tailored for the IL2 flight sim crowd. It may convince others to try online multiplayer if they see us catting it up in comms via voice and/or VOIP.


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I love this sim. - Oleg and the devs you guys have done great over the years.

[Igo kyu]

Originally Posted by LoyalNine

5. Damage that stays (Damaged) until its fixed somehow. If you launch an attack on an enemy airfield and crater the beginning middle and end of the runway than good luck talking off... of if you just crater one side of it it would have to be a short takeoff. If teh damage shaowed it would also allow other to know what to target because they can see it. I would love to see big smokin craters in the middle of a BLUE runway

Eh? Fixed by the player? that doesn't sound like fun.

Runway craters would have been filled in a few hours at most (as they used to say at the time, there was a war on).

If you mean bullet holes should not evaporate when the graphics card gets bored of them, I'm with you, but if you want everybody to suffer unrealistically long-lasting effects from offensive actions, I'm absolutely not.